So what your saying is this. You and I are on the same team working on the same project....
I make some changes to my code, and I have not written any TDD test cases and just submit my work into subversion and go home, while I am travelling home I am involved in a car accident and put into hospital and out of action for a day or 2... Thanking god its not serious... Anyway, the code that I submitted broke the website / application in a major way. now its your Job or someone elses to step through the revisions to see what I did to break the code. Now on top of this, you have one hour to figure this out before you demostrate the new changes that had been made for the last few weeks. However I can't be contacted cause I am still not very coheriant.... But due to an unforseen problem, I not only broke the latest version (Note: version not revision) and forced others to waste time finding out what I did to break the latest build / code. In the meantime the client is being patient, and you have to put him/her off for a day or two to get this sorted out, then he begins to wonder what he/she has paid for and is becomming a little impatient with you. Are you begining to understand my point now, it doesn't matter what you think in the long run you might have saved more time on the project if I did not commit this code and stopped everyone else from getting their job done. Subversion is a version control system, with the ability to handle revisions. It is not a revision control system and should not be treated that way. The mentality of a developer should be take action against all possible problems, and if my code is going to break the latest build at the 11th hour or not I shouldn't commit it until I am 100% happy with the fact all my unit test cases have passed and I have covered 100% of code in my tests. Bobby, your methods might work. But it can be improved and thats what I am trying to say to you, why do you think the java community adopted the agile and TDD aproach, and use subversion for what it is designed for. They know at the end of the day they can export the code to a test server, and its as stable as it should be for any demo or presentation at the drop of a hat. On 5/12/07, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Its your time your wasting > > I'm not wasting any time or money but thanks for your concern. I have a > pretty good reputation for OVER delivering applications WELL under budget > AND deadline. Anyone who has worked with me can vouch for that. I also > come > from a place where I clean up after myself. If I spill it, I'll clean it > up... If I break it, I'll fix it. I don't depend on other developers to > hold > my hand and fix mistakes that I might have made. I would do that on my own > time and dime. If I had back every dollar I've 'wasted' doing so over the > years, I MIGHT be able to buy you a beer. Maybe, over that beer, I could > explain to you the concept of "agree to disagree" and the definition of > narcissism. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.8/797 - Release Date: 5/10/2007 > 5:10 PM > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277824 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
