True, but if Adobe released a ColdFusion for .NET then you would have choice
and granted if you couldn't use Windows (or don't) then it is out of the
question!

You eloquently cut out some parts of .NET v Java in my post,i never said
they were the "same" as in identical my point is that if you write
cfif/cfcomponent in either a ColdFusion for Java or ColdFusion for .NET the
process to you is the same and in that way, since ColdFusion is a tag based
languague you shouldn't need to care what gives you the result back.  Just
like you are not programming in Java when you develop ColdFusion now, you
will not be developing in C#, VB whatever (though you could).

Personally, I think a  pure .NET version of ColdFusion will run faster on
Windows due to the fact its components will be native whereas ColdFusion now
is a myriad of components (ADO v .JDBC, .NET runtime v JRE) abeit doing an
outstanding job.  I am not sure what DB/OS you are running but I would say a
large portion of us run upon Windows and use SQL server and it is these
users who would benefit from native support for drivers etc within Windows.

The only way I can see .NET limiting you is to limit you to Windows and not
much else.   You could leverage Java apps if you really wanted to just like
CF8 allows you to interop with .NET now.

What other limitations do you envisage?

I ask this not provoke :-) but to forward a serious opinion to develop
release a .NET version of ColdFusion, branded and approved as a .NET
compliant language to allow for more native choice with ColdFusion.


N








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-----Original Message-----
From: Jordan Michaels
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Tue Jun 05 19:07:29 2007
Subject: Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
> There is absolutely no basis in this, why wouldn't you touch it?

Because I'm a firm believer in choice - and I find .NET restrictive and 
limiting.

> CFML upon .NET would be the same as running CFML upon Java

False. .NET and Java are very different. Platform independence is one of 
the MANY ways that they are different.

> it would probably run
> faster as well.

Presumption.

> Is it just a stupid "anti-Microsoft" stance?

It is a pro-choice stance.

> I would say you are in the minority, certainly in the circles of technical
> fellows who understand and realise where .NET lies in the landscape..

You make it sound like I'm denying the existence of .NET. I'm fine with 
...NET. If if helps you, then happy for you. I'm not denying that it can 
perform specific tasks. What I *AM* saying, (read this part carefully) 
is that it limits you in your choices once you invest in it. CFML, Java, 
PHP, and Ruby do not include this limitation, and also allow you to 
perform the same tasks that .NET does. So... why would I purposely chose 
to limit yourself when there are non-limiting alternatives available?

> I would be interested to see understand why it would have zero interest...

It's simple really: I enjoy freedom.

-Jordan



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