John, >From what I know (or remember) of the legalities of it all - it is actually rather expensive for CF to ship with a driver, as there are a slew of licensing costs. This was one of the reasons it took so long to get postGres and mySQL5 drivers with CF.
But there has never, ever been any issue with you adding them in yourself, as then the licence isn't bound to the CF product. Annoying, I know, but that's just how the cookie crumbles. Mark On 7/31/07, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can use the Oracle j2ee drivers (that comes with Oracle) to work with CF > standard. Just a little more work on your end, but it works fine. > > This is for Oracle 10g, it may be slightly different for other versions.. > -Find the ojdbc14.jar driver on your oracle installation > -Put that jar into your WEB-INF\lib > -In coldfusion, create a new datasource and choose "other" as the driver > -JDBC URL would be jdbc:oracle:thin:@ip:port:database > -Driver Class oracle.jdbc.OracleDriver > > Now why does CF standard not just go ahead and do this for you. Well franky > I don't know, but it really doesn't matter if you have the drivers anyway. > It does confuse the hack out of people, which is bad. Wanted to make sure > you knew this before you decided to jump ship :) > > > John > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 770.337.8363 > > www.FusionLink.com - Specializing in ColdFusion and Flex hosting > Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting > FREE Subversion hosting > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles E. Heizer1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 1:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin > > So, I have to agree with Dale... Adobe has put a bullet in CF. For example, > Standard Edition would be fine for me but I need Oracle access and now I > need to pay twice that just to do supported Oracle connectivity. We are an > enterprise and when I discussed this with management they came back and said > we should just invest our time in ASP.NET. We can retrain our developers, > and not worry about buying upgrades and we'll get new features as they come > out. You know, I don't disagree with them. I just recently started playing > with Visual Studio .Net, and it's far easier to write web services and > create great web content. > > Adobe thanks for the memories, a user/developer since version 4.5. > > - Charles > > > On 7/30/07 5:27 AM, "Adam Haskell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I want to echo what Sean said...I looked at CF8 and thought, "wow finally a > product that I would really label Enterprise." Not to say CF7 wasn't > Enterprise, it had some great features and was a great release, but I think > the monitoring and some of the Administration changes helped make it really > enterprise friendly. Thats not mentioning the performance enhancements, > exchange integration (which currently means nothing to Lotus Shops bleh), > and whole suite of ajax tools that really make CF shine as a UI web layer > for large Java apps. > > You have to look at this product and realize enterprise is worthless to you > unless you really need super scalability. Standard has it all, albeit > limited/throttled. Sure cfthread and exchange integration and PDF (?) are > throttled but they are available and until you have 100+ (dare I say > probably more) concurrent users using the exact same functionality > Enterprise means very little. Its like a computer, my Mom doesn't need a > dual core 64bit AMD with 2gig of ram and 256mb dedicate graphics card > running iSCSI to send me pictures and read email (unless she is running > Vista then she might ;) ). Gone are the days where you have to have > enterprise to play with those nifty event gateways. If enterprise looks to > expensive to you then you probably don't need it, or you need to look at > some other Enterprise software costs and revisit in 15 minutes. Hell I say > that single move by Adobe to offer a more complete Standard Edition will > open more doors for ColdFusion than any single feature. I say Bravo! > > Adam Haskell > > On 7/30/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 7/29/07, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As for your post on CF 8 being a dead product because of the price > > > increase, note that the increase if for Enterprise. How many people > > > here (other than me) actually use or need enterprise. > > > > Me! > > > > To be honest, the difference between $3,000/CPU and $3,750/CPU is > > pretty negligible in an enterprise world. For the - new-in-8 - > > (multi-)server monitoring and RDS/Admin user management features, > > unlimited CFTHREAD and unlimited MS Exchange integration, that extra > > $750/CPU is well worth it (as well as the general reasons Enterprise > > is worth paying more for: unlimited event gateways, PDF/document > > services, reporting etc). > > > > The key thing everyone should be rejoicing about is that Standard > > Edition includes: event gateways, pdf/document services, cfthread, MS > > Exchange integration, reporting, presentation generation. There would > > be a lot of complaints if these were Enterprise only features. There > > were plenty of complaints around CFMX 7 because event gateways were > > Enterprise-only! > > -- > > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN > > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ > > > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." > > -- Margaret Atwood > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284873 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
