One of the points here was that other software has more of a "price spread" than Adobe CF currently. Don't get too focused in on the numbers. The other point was that enterprise level software is expensive. Surprise! Sure there's J2EE stuff that as expensive if not more, I stand corrected there. But Microsoft, Oracle (to some point) and others have layers of product versions to cover the purchasing power our their customers.
To use a car analogy. Not everyone can afford an Aston-Martin DB5 but they don't want a used 70's VW bug either. There's a range that all the car companies cover with slightly different lines. The same is true for software. It's actually good, it means there's a big enough market for CF to have a real price spread of more than 2 versions. If Adobe ran a simple pricing analysis, I bet with a new 'business version' they would end up making more money than having just Standard/Enterprise versions. John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770.337.8363 www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting FREE Subversion hosting -----Original Message----- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin We just purchased SQL Server licenses and it's only the actual processor that counts. You could have a quad core and it would only be one license. -----Original Message----- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Adobe Nails ColdFusion Cofin > > Dale, I did a quick search for software pricing to put the CF8 pricing > in some perspective.. > > Windows 2003 Enterprise 3,443 > Windows 2003 Standard 958 > > Oracle 10g Enterprise 40,000 > Oracle 10g Standard 4,995 > > Sql Server Enterprise 13,699 > Sql Server Standard 1,754 > > JBoss Enterprise 4,500 > I'm not sure if this pricing is an accurate representation. Sure SQL server standard is around $1800 with 5 CALs, but if you want to use it for a web app, you will need a per processor license. Let's say you have a standard dual core 2 duo box. That's 4 virtual processors. If I'm reading the licensing terms correctly, you would need 4 processor licenses (assuming you want to utilize all 4 processors). This comes out to $5999 per processor x 4 processors, $23996 for the standard version, $24,999 per processor x 4 processors, $95984 for the enterprise version. Of course if you're buying the enterprise version, you're probably doing it for failover or some sort of clustering, in which case you will likely have 2 servers, so it will be close to $200k for the enterprise version. Of course there's the express version, which does most of what you would need as long as you don't need more then 1 cpu, 1GB of ram and 4GB of db size. I think MS did a good move by releasing the express version. This might hurt sales, as a lot of people would be happy with just the express version, but once people start outgrowing it, they will have no choice but to plunk down $6k per CPU for the standard edition. Mind you that CF only charges per physical processor and the enterprise license covers 2 physical CPUs (last time I checked). This means you can have 2 quad-core or higher CPUs and you're good as far as CF is concenrned. You can also have unlimited virtual machines on the 2 physical CPUs, and run a copy of standard edition in each of them, and you're still good as far as licensing is concerned. Russ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:285060 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
