>From experience, I've seen timeouts like this happen during framework initiation on multiple hosting services (including CrystalTech) and on CF7 as well as CF8. It's one of the joys of working on shared servers. A lot gets stuffed into memory when Model-Glue, ColdSpring and Transfer or Reactor load both the frameworks and your associated application-scoped objects, and sometimes it takes too long.
The problem can be exacerbated by the fact that hosting services typically keep short application and session timeout limits on their machines, so if no one hits your application for a few hours (like overnight), it will have to start up all over again. I've worked around this by creating a scheduled task that "tickles" the site periodically, firing an event just to keep the application loaded in memory. Also, if you're using Transfer and CF8, the Java bug can bite even after the application starts up, since Transfer will only begin loading classes representing Transfer objects when it is asked to. Mark Mandel pointed this out in an earlier thread on the Transfer list. Finally, specific to CrystalTech: I contacted one of their senior support folks in mid-December and explained the Java bug to him, pointing to both Sean Corfield's and Mark Mandel's blog entries on the issue. Naturally, they weren't eager to install Java 1.5 on all their CF servers. But after some prodding, they agreed to discuss it with Adobe. Which reminds me, of course: I should find out the status. If I learn anything useful (even if negative), I'll add it to this thread. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:296151 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4

