Most of the plugins in MyEclipse are proprietary, developed by Genuitec,
though it does base some of the plugins on OS projects.  A couple of years
ago I would have agreed hands down with Barney. These days i am tending to
lean the other way. I have found more and more that I can setup a more
productive environment on my own. MyEclipse has become heavier and slow and
in all honesty I find myself more productive with other plugins. With 100
developers and quite a few contractors coming in and out It is well worth
our time as a company to evaluate the plugins on the market find the best of
breed and distribute them, tools like pulse and yoxos make it tremendously
easy. Aside from Apanta, which is abit of hog, all the plugins I listed
previously are quick and nimble. To each his/her own though if you evaluate
myEclipse and like it, go for it like Barney said to him it is worth it and
I think many would agree.

Adam Haskell


On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I have to chime in here and say that MyEclipse isn't about saving
> money on plugins.  I can't say with absolute certainty, but I'm pretty
> sure that ever plugin MyEclipse comes with is freely available.  What
> MyEclipse does is pre-integrate them.  I pay my $50/yr and never have
> to worry about finding all that crap and it's dependencies.  I could
> set up a similar environment myself, no question, but it'd take at
> least an hour or three, which means it's more expensive than
> MyEclipse.
>
> If you look at TCO, MyEclipse is still an amazingly good deal.
>
> cheers,
> barneyb
>
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > MyEclipse is not worth the price, especially with the onset of WTP from
> >  eclipse foundation, and some other nice plugins. Check my blog entry
> out
> >  about setting up WTP,
> >  http://cfrant.blogspot.com/2008/03/jboss-eclipse-and-bluedragon.html .
> >  Beyond that here are some other eclipse plugins that are free:
> >
> >  xmlbuddy - http://xmlbuddy.com/2.0/products.html - the free edition is
> good
> >  enough for my uses and honestly comes close to matching MyEclispe
> >
> >  quantumDB - http://quantum.sourceforge.net/ - just as good as myeclipse
> >
> >  Aptanta - http://www.aptana.com/ - it is sort of heavy but a really
> robust
> >  JS, CSS and XML editor, once again the free edition is good enough.
> >
> >  Spket  - http://www.spket.com/ - an alternative to Aptana and very
> >  nice.Ihave not looked at XML in it but it does support Flex
> >  development too.
> >
> >  Fujaba - http://wwwcs.uni-paderborn.de/cs/fujaba/ - a bit flakey
> eclipse
> >  support but a nice free UML editor none the less. If i recall there is
> an
> >  eclipse project now for UML...I know there is an IBM product which is
> what
> >  we are evaluating at work.
> >
> >
> >  A few years ago I would have said MyEclipse is a no brainer, these days
> I
> >  don't believe that anymore. Even in java development it has become
> harder
> >  and harder to justify the cost. I know the cost difference is
> substantial
> >  but if I am going to spend money on an IDE these days for Java it will
> be
> >  spent on IntelliJ.
> >
> >  Adam Haskell
> >
>
> --
> Barney Boisvert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.barneyb.com/
>
> Got Gmail? I have 100 invites.
>
> 

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