> You of all people have been around long enough to know, that 
> if we as a developer could have our jobs made easier. Makes 
> me wonder why you made your comment?

I don't see it as Adobe's place to tell me how to write code, which is
essentially what a framework of any type does. In the same way that Sun
doesn't distribute frameworks for Java, I don't see this as a job for Adobe.
I would be ok with them making CF more "friendly" to Hibernate-like
frameworks - compiling CFCs as discrete Java classes rather than a bunch of
classes, one for each function, for example.

> Grails is built on top of Java, just as much as ColdFusion 
> is. So what is your point?

While CF is a Java application, from the CF developer's perspective it's a
programming language. Frameworks aren't incorporated in programming
languages for a very good reason - people have different opinions about
which frameworks to use.

> But one can dream..... Like you said, I also doubt it will 
> become open source this release... Or even the next, but it 
> will happen... Mark those words...

Not while it's offered for sale by Adobe.

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