check out sql litespeed for very quick and powerful backup and  
restore.  Can be a handy way to move them about - although I must  
admit I'm out of date now as I tend to stick to postgresql and mysql  
which have very simple porting methods.

Toby

On 05/01/2009, at 11:30 AM, Mike Kear wrote:

> I'm heartily sick of the tedious way I have to spend half a day or
> more EACH WEEK uploading and downloading databases from my
> SQLServer2005 web sites.
> I'm going to have another go at learning the best way to do this . .
>
> Can someone please give me some help...    IN the old days I used to  
> have a
> DTS task running overnight automatically, copying databases to and
> from my dev environment to the production web sites.
>
> Since SQLServer2005 there has been no way that I can find,  to create
> a DTS task and reuse it  EACH TIME I have to create it, and regardless
> of whether I save the DTS task or not,  it's not available next time
> for me to reuse.
> I have ot create it all over again.    Needless to say it's really  
> PISSING
> ME OFF!
>
> Can someone please tell me how I can create a method of copying entire
> databases which might have 40tables or more with the indexes, and key
> relationships etc from remote servers to my local database server,  or
> conversely from my dev environment to my production server.
>
> And also how I can do this in a way that the task is repeatable
> without having to be created every time.
>
> I've tried using Visual Studio 2005 but that has finally defeated me.
> I can never find what I want to use,  and the MS Help files are total
> gobbldegook
> to me.   I cant make head nor tail of it.  After 3 years of  
> wrestling with
> Visual Studio I have had to give up.  There's no way to save any  
> file from
> that and reuse it.   Not that I've found anyway.    The best I've ever
> managed to do is create a solution,  and run debug every time.   And  
> that
> takes 30 minutes to an hour to run a simple job of copying 3 tables,
> and ties up my machine completely for the duration.
>
> I'm sure my problem is that I'm trying to use the wrong tools,  or
> that I just don't know how to use the tools correctly,  but I'm
> despairing of ever getting back to the neat and tidy way I had to do
> this in the old SQLServer2000 days.
>
> Incidentally, just as an additional comment to my plea ...
>
> I cant use the copy database wizard, because it's a shared server and
> I don't have admin rights.    So I cant create a database on the
> remote server using SQLServer management studio.
>
> For the same reason I cant create a backup and then restore it on the
> other server..
>
> For the same reason I cant use replication in any way.
>
> For the same reason, detaching, FTP then attach to the other server is
> out as well.
>
>
> I think Microsoft forgot entirely about the thousands of people using
> shared hosting servers when they developed SQLServer2005.   And I'm
> told there's no provision for it in the new 2008 version either.
> <sigh>
>
> So what do the rest of you people on shared hosts do??
> -- 
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
> http://afpwebworks.com
> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>
> 

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