Thanks Paul.  I see those Red gates packages are a series of $395
applications.  My tiny company isn't going to afford $5000 worth of
tools,  or even the bundle price around $1000.

Which of them do you use to copy/duplicate/synchronise databases
between two servers?

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
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On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Paul Kukiel <[email protected]> wrote:
> We recently got Red gates toolbelt SQL tools.  Like you upgrading/
> moving databases was time consuming and difficult.  Now its just so
> much easier.  http://www.red-gate.com/products/
> SQL_Professional_Toolbelt/index.htm
>
> Paul Kukiel
>
>
>
> On 04/01/2009, at 7:30 PM, Mike Kear wrote:
>
>> I'm heartily sick of the tedious way I have to spend half a day or
>> more EACH WEEK uploading and downloading databases from my
>> SQLServer2005 web sites.
>> I'm going to have another go at learning the best way to do this . .
>>
>> Can someone please give me some help...    IN the old days I used
>> to have a
>> DTS task running overnight automatically, copying databases to and
>> from my dev environment to the production web sites.
>>
>> Since SQLServer2005 there has been no way that I can find,  to create
>> a DTS task and reuse it  EACH TIME I have to create it, and regardless
>> of whether I save the DTS task or not,  it's not available next time
>> for me to reuse.
>> I have ot create it all over again.    Needless to say it's really
>> PISSING
>> ME OFF!
>>
>> Can someone please tell me how I can create a method of copying entire
>> databases which might have 40tables or more with the indexes, and key
>> relationships etc from remote servers to my local database server,  or
>> conversely from my dev environment to my production server.
>>
>> And also how I can do this in a way that the task is repeatable
>> without having to be created every time.
>>
>> I've tried using Visual Studio 2005 but that has finally defeated me.
>> I can never find what I want to use,  and the MS Help files are total
>> gobbldegook
>> to me.   I cant make head nor tail of it.  After 3 years of
>> wrestling with
>> Visual Studio I have had to give up.  There's no way to save any
>> file from
>> that and reuse it.   Not that I've found anyway.    The best I've ever
>> managed to do is create a solution,  and run debug every time.
>> And that
>> takes 30 minutes to an hour to run a simple job of copying 3 tables,
>> and ties up my machine completely for the duration.
>>
>> I'm sure my problem is that I'm trying to use the wrong tools,  or
>> that I just don't know how to use the tools correctly,  but I'm
>> despairing of ever getting back to the neat and tidy way I had to do
>> this in the old SQLServer2000 days.
>>
>> Incidentally, just as an additional comment to my plea ...
>>
>> I cant use the copy database wizard, because it's a shared server and
>> I don't have admin rights.    So I cant create a database on the
>> remote server using SQLServer management studio.
>>
>> For the same reason I cant create a backup and then restore it on the
>> other server..
>>
>> For the same reason I cant use replication in any way.
>>
>> For the same reason, detaching, FTP then attach to the other server is
>> out as well.
>>
>>
>> I think Microsoft forgot entirely about the thousands of people using
>> shared hosting servers when they developed SQLServer2005.   And I'm
>> told there's no provision for it in the new 2008 version either.
>> <sigh>
>>
>> So what do the rest of you people on shared hosts do??
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Mike Kear
>> Windsor, NSW, Australia
>> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
>> AFP Webworks
>> http://afpwebworks.com
>> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>>
>>
>
> 

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