Thanks for your comments, Paul! Here are my answers:
The site is html + ajax (jquery). no flex, but lots of flash - it's a thai site after all! :) Yes, boxes only so far, no Thai text when the client tries to enter data... I have no problems entering Thai text data from my Win XP computer... My wife still loves it there, despite the rain :) MS Sans Serif seems to display Thai text in the pages just fine on my Win XP... Well, actually the font specified in the site's stylesheet is "Microsoft Sans Serif"... I am not sure such font even exists - maybe my browser just substitutes its default unicode font for it? The other 2 fonts specified in the stylesheet are "FreesiaUPC" and "IrisUPC". More googling on these has led me to believe that they are NOT unicode fonts (http://www.ascenderfonts.com/font/freesiaupc.aspx and http://www.ascenderfonts.com/font/irisupc-bold.aspx), and are NOT generally-available fonts on a Mac OS10.4+. Am I correct? I have also found references to these Thai Mac fonts: Ayuthaya, Krungthep, Sathu, Silom, Thonburi and Lucida Grande - which seem to come pre-installed on Mac OS10.2+, but I am not 100% sure these are unicode - do you know? The designers do not seem to know unicode from a hole in the ground. They are an ASP.Net/Flash shop, but that's the client's choice I have to live with... They (designers) also say they have one old Mac they will have a look at tomorrow... The client is all up-to-date Macs with 10.2+ as far as I know. Do you think I will be better off re-configuring the app to use a Thai codepage (tis-620 ?) instead of utf-8? is that a standard for Thai websites? i would rather keep it all unicode/utf-8, because knowing this client they will probably want to have a site in multiple languages sometime soon... My Lao is pretty bad as well, at least on the speaking/reading side :) Too late to learn it now - moving to Hong Kong in a month. Time to learn Chinese, I guess... Again, thanks for your help, Paul! Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ On 24/06/2009 23:30, Paul Hastings wrote: > Azadi Saryev wrote: >> I have developed a Thai language website for a client. The app runs on >> CF8 + MySQL 5 and is configured for UTF-8 on both ends. > > HTML or flex? > >> All my tests of entering data via the admin area have and are working >> fine... However, when the client enters data it all goes into the db and >> then back to screen as boxes instead of Thai characters.... > > boxes are minor rendering or encoding issue. you're not dead, not yet anyway. > >> Mac to test things on (my wife with her MB is in Koh Samui at the >> moment... lucky her...) > > lucky? it's raining cats & dogs. > >> used on the site is "MS Sans Serif", + 2 more Thai fonts of which I have > > there's no thai glyphs in sans serif (at least for unicode). which thai > fonts? > do the designers know about unicode? its "more" normal here to see codepage > encodings, could be the problem (ie why they're using sans serif for thai). > also > they probably have macs. > > how old are the macs at the client? i can probably suggest a few font > families > if i know how far back to look. > >> never heard before and my googling has not revealed much more (apart >> from a few web pages all in Thai, which I unfortunately do not read)... > > close enough to lao i think (i can read most lao anyway). > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:323873 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

