ASP.net is a very real product, not vapour ware. I've played with it,
written some code in it, and I'm very impressed. It's fast, the code
can look a lot cleaner (more of a jsp-like tag syntax as opposed to ASP
spaghetti), and lotso other stuff. With my CF background, I was writing
code within 10 minutes. It has a ton of features, far more than should
be discussed in a ColdFusion mailing list. Also, at this stage of the
game, CF 5, Neo, Harvest, and all those other goodies from the
conference are "vapour" ware in the sense that noone has seen an actual
product. So let's remember the distinction between "vaporware" and
"under development" (I would think as developers that shouldn't be a
problem.)
However, I would like to chime in with a personal opinion. I don't
consider myself a ColdFusion programmer; I am a "web" programmer. As
such, I use whatever tools get the job done best. I subscribe to
several lists, dedicated to each language technology. I recognize that
each list has a particular focus, and discussing Perl in a ColdFusion
list, or ColdFusion in a SQL Server list, is not kosher. However, I
find myself mildly annoyed when I see, oh, that's not "X", so it must be
bad ("X" represents the mailing list's topic). Not to mention the fact
that if the technology belongs to any companies out of Redmond, the
negativity seems to double. (Note to self to avoid hypocrisy: always
discuss products/technology based on facts and specifications; leave
emotions and opinions out of it ;)
--
Billy Cravens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeremy Allen wrote:
>
> Why is it..
>
> Everyone insists on considering ASP.NET etc vapor ware...?
> You can download pretty functional beta's of the software.
>
> To me that makes it a little more than "vaporware". Just
> my opinon but the beta's are rather useable and you can get
> ahold of them now.
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/
>
> Follow this link, go to .NET Downloads...
>
> "This first beta of the Microsoft. .NET Framework includes everything
> you need to write, build, and test .NET applications: ASP.NET,
> the Common Language Runtime, documentation, samples, tools,
> and command line compilers."
>
> ASP.NET was formerly known as ASP+
>
> Jeremy Allen
> ElliptIQ Inc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:59 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: ColdFusion vs. ASP.NET
>
> > It's hard to compare an existing product with one that doesn't
> > exist yet. I suspect that .NET won't be all that different from
> > how MS guys use ASP and COM now, anyway.
> >
> > In any case, by the time that .NET is a real product, CF 5 will
> > probably be a real product too.
>
> I have a fantastic piece of Vapour-Ware, it'll out-perform anything on the
> market... honest it will, and it'll never crash the server...
>
> Philip Arnold
> Director
> Certified ColdFusion Developer
> ASP Multimedia Limited
> T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133
>
> "Websites for the real world"
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