>---- Sean Corfield <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> A certificate doesn't say zip about whether you can get work done. The
>> courses might be useful for the O.P. but they don't tell an employer
>> anything so the certificate itself is worthless, IMO.
>
> As in most things, it depends. A certificate might not be worth the 
>paper and ink in reality, but it can be the difference between getting 
>in the door. Many hiring decisions are not made on reality, but on 
>perception.
>
> Many corporate job search criteria are not set up by knowledgeable 
>people in the field. HR people do a lot of it and certifications are 
>one way they break ties. They can put your resume in play where it would 
>be in the reject pile otherwise. I would not discount them completely. 
>I have seen many job announcements with certifications as necessary 
>though most of them were in Microsoft based systems. (MS has made a lot 
>of money on certifications.)
>
> It is also true that corporate organizations look for ways to show 
>differences between employees. Getting certified is measurable. (All 
>the MBAs love to measure stuff.) Getting a certification can get you 
>a raise or promotion in many places. Of course, many independent 
>developers probably have no use for certifications since they are 
>irrelevant in the real world. 
>
> I would encourage anyone to continue to take classes and even teach 
>them in your field. We have all benefited from the hard work people 
>put into teaching, books, blogs, user groups, etc. 
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Den,
 thats cool i used to use cfeclipse untill coldfusion builder came out and i 
heard cfeclipse wasn't suppported or wasnt going to be supported anymore.  But 
you sound like you have alot more experience then i do.  i freaking built one 
site in coldfusion. blankdealer.com and i'm dying for more programming 
expereience and i think this whole project would be a good focus for me.  i 
have read briefly about alot of the frameworks but more about coldfusion on 
wheels, and fusebox  just out of sheer curiousity really. i'm reading about 
coldspring right now cause you mentioned it and i have never takin the time to 
read about it.  ya and your right this is a good place to communicate till we 
get a site up of sorts taht would enable chat/communication of sorts.  i wanna 
integrate the ability to do many things but allow the simplicity to do the very 
simplist as well. but i'm with you i always like the idea of being platform 
inspecific, and things that had a applicatable to a broader audience of 
everything! haha   specificity is my word.  to most levels of specificity the 
usefulness of this community plumbing would be useful!

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