Not to stir the pot any more than it already is, but I wanted to point 
out two quick things:

1)  That's not Ben Forta's blog you linked to.
2)  That article was published 6 years ago.

Carry on....

Thanks,

Eric Cobb
ECAR Technologies, LLC
http://www.ecartech.com
http://www.cfgears.com



Robert Harrison wrote:
>> Right now, the way it's branded (and named), the argument is Cold Fusion
>>     
> vs. .NET.    Why do you say that?
>
> Because the best links I got out of my previous email were at best bleak.
> The best link prompted an on-list response that we have 4 years to learn a
> new language.
>
>   
>> but the argument of .NET vs J2EE or Adobe vs. Microsoft is a much easier
>>     
> argument.   Why do you say that?
>
> Because that's the argument Ben Forta makes in his blog:
> http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/node/46362 
>
> Comparing ASP.NET to ColdFusion is difficult.  Actually, it's not just
> difficult, it's simply incorrect, and not an apples-to-apples comparison...
> In other words, deciding between ColdFusion and ASP.NET (and indeed,
> defending ColdFusion against ASP.NET) first requires a .NET versus J2EE
> discussion....
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 3:36 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Is it time for Adobe to Rebrand Cold Fusion?
>
>
>   
>> Right now, the way it's branded (and named), the argument is Cold Fusion
>>     
> vs.
>   
>> .NET.
>>     
>
> Why do you say that?
>
>   
>> That is a hard argument,
>>     
>
> Why do you say that?
>
>   
>> but the argument of .NET vs J2EE or Adobe vs. Microsoft is a much easier
>>     
> argument.
>
> Why do you say that?
>
> Honestly, I'm not trying to be difficult, but none of those statements
> really seem to be as self-evident as you seem to think. ColdFusion is
> not just a competitor with .NET; it's a competitor with "pure" J2EE
> solutions. But if you were going to cast this as CF vs .NET, there are
> plenty of compelling arguments you can make for choosing CF over .NET.
> (And a decent number for choosing .NET also.) The same is true for
> .NET vs J2EE. And finally, Adobe vs Microsoft isn't a great argument
> to make in favor of CF - plenty of people use MS server products.
> Where's Adobe's server OS? Their database platform? Their Sharepoint
> analog? etc, etc, etc.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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>
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