> > That sounds suspiciously like Big Design Up Front which is a practice > I abandoned a long time ago... >
I think you've jumped to some conclusions. I never said anything about fixed costs. I said defining the scope of the project and making the client pay for deviations from it. I didn't say give a client a solid number and then nickel and dime them. I think you've got some "Big Business" axe to grind that's causing you to read something into my post that frankly isn't there. I'm not talking about fixing costs. I'm talking about managing a clients expectations and staying on budget. Look, it sounds like you've structured your business around the idea that you don't have to give estimates. And that's great. From the sounds of it your clients are willing to pay while you organically come across the scope of a project through multiple discovery phases. That sounds fantastic. And if that approach works for you then by all means carry on good sir because it sounds ideal. Sadly, the clients I've worked with generally have to report to a bean counter. They want to know, within reason, what a project is going to cost, what's involved and when it's going to be completed. They won't accept paying for multiple discovery phases. In their eyes this isn't the arts or the sciences. They have a need, a budget and a deadline. In those circumstances my approach works for me. Ultimately your mileage may vary. I'm simply giving my advice based on my experience. I'm not trying to get anyone to drink any kool-aid. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341914 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

