Russ,

You are a dick.

-Adam

** I thought about that one first.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Russ Michaels <r...@michaels.me.uk> wrote:

>
> Well we can't be sure that was how Adobe intended to announce it, Adam does
> have a tendency to post first, think later :-)
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:05 AM, <cft...@fusionlink.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Perhaps, but I think there needs to be a serious discussion about this.
> > Adobe went about a weird way in announcing it and I guess hoped it
> wouldn't
> > get much notice as a result. This is one of the biggest decisions they
> have
> > made with ColdFusion in several years.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
> > To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
> > Sent: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:23:44 +0000
> > Subject: Re: Re: Change in ColdFusion management
> >
> >
> > Painting a target on your back there John :-)
> >
> > Unfortunately having an opinion that is not 100% positive about CF or
> Adobe
> > brings out the worst Trolls who really have nothing constructive to add
> and
> > just get their rocks off by making rude and obnoxious comments, which is
> > simply not called for and really some people should know better and be
> more
> > mature.
> >
> > I agree with your concerns and can understand where they come from, but I
> > also think that perhaps you are being overly pessimistic and assuming the
> > worst. I can understand why anyone would assume the worst about
> outsourcing
> > to India, it has a bad rep and most people who have had to deal with
> > outsourced support will have been driven to tearing their hair out at
> some
> > point. But as has been said, this is not really outsourcing as Adobe have
> > offices and staff there and have had for a long time.
> >
> > Your suggestions for improvements however are fair and seems like they
> > would
> > be beneficial regardless of whether you consider this to be FUD or not.
> >
> > Best of luck with the the oncoming flotsam.
> >
> > Russ.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:53 PM, William Seiter <will...@seiter.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Got it, thanks everyone for the google cache link...  must be a bad
> brain
> > > day monday for me....  ;)
> > >
> > > William
> > > ----------
> > > William E. Seiter
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 14, 2011, cft...@fusionlink.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It's cached by Google..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3G9LdiSkodEJ:www.adrocknaphobia.com/post.cfm/the-modern-age-of-coldfusion+http://www.adrocknaphobia.com/post.cfm/the-modern-age-of-coldfusion&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari&source=www.google.com
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: William Seiter [mailto:will...@seiter.com]
> > > To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
> > > Sent: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:08:14 +0000 (GMT)
> > > Subject: Re: Change in ColdFusion management
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone have Adam's announcement?  I keep trying to access it and get a
> > > blank page.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > William
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > William E. Seiter
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 14, 2011, cft...@fusionlink.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In case people don't know and many may not due to the way it was
> > announced
> > > late last friday, there is a debate going on with the recent change in
> > > Adobe's management of Coldfusion. Whether you agree with my concerns or
> > not,
> > > it's important that everyone get a chance to voice their opinions on
> > this.
> > >
> > > Here a the blog posts to look at...
> > >
> > > Adam's announcement
> > > http://www.adrocknaphobia.com/post.cfm/the-modern-age-of-coldfusion
> > >
> > > My reaction
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.codfusion.com/blog/post.cfm/so-there-s-this-story-about-a-frog-in-boiling-water
> > > -there are comments that add additional problems to this move
> > >
> > > Brian Meloche's reaction
> > >
> http://www.brianmeloche.com/blog/index.cfm/2011/2/12/End-of-another-era
> > >
> > > John
> > > ma...@fusionlink.com
> > > twitter: john_mason_
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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