Ok... thanks for that. (as Chris Wallace says on Fox News Sunday... too often used to end his segments! :o)
Another question, however, is raised by your comments. Since AIR worked so well for the commercial fishing app, why are you transitioning to Flash Builder for mobile dev? I just want *one* platform to develop on for everything I do. Is AIR not capable of doing some things that Flash Builder can do? (I've hated Flash for the last 10+ years, ever since it was just a fancy graphics animation tool.) Great stuff could be done with Flash animation, but nothing I could make money with. (Did I mention I have a biased, perhaps undue, hatred for Flash? :o) -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:50 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Need some perspective... Hey Rick, Yeah....similar boat here. Tried AIR for use onboard commercial fishing vessel PCs....works great! Now we're heading to mobile dev and have done some basic prelim stuff using Flash Builder 4.5 (Burrito)....amazing how fast you can put together a basic app. We did a sample using the Twitter API.....shows top trending subjects....then press a subject to see it's tweets....then press a tweet to see details about it's origin. All that took about 30-45 mins once we knew how the API worked. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure which part of CS 5 (we're targeting Android first so haven't investigated fully)......but I do know the tool is not just a converter. Even if it was, I'd argue the time saved not writing for iOS and then again for Android would be worth it ;-) So it may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it sure impressed me (and those that know me know how picky I am)! Cheers On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 12:39 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote: > I have to admit, the "pixel perfect, cross-browser user experience" > is *really* compelling. > > I've been developing websites/web applications for a decade, and now > that I'm having to throw mobile development into that mix, it's just > a little short of insane for a one-man development team. :o) > > One immediate comment concerns "using a tool in CS 5". Is that tool > for creating iOS AIR apps only available if I purchase CS 5? At a > cost of at *least* $1300 and as much as $2600, that's a lot to pay > for a conversion tool. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:15 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Need some perspective... > > > Hey Rick, > > AIR apps can be converted to run on iOS. I'm pretty sure that is using > a tool in CS 5. Apple tried to kill that, but eventually allowed for > "converted" code instead of natively written Ojective C. > > They can also be exported to run on Android (which is why we are using > it). > > .....and as an added bonus...if you learn AIR, you're learninga whole > lot about FLEX at the same time (AIR essentially adds functionality on > top of FLEX.....things like local file system access and other things a > standard web app can't do). > > As with any other decision.....best tool for the job. > > The way we see it here is it is one tool for multiple platforms...and > that "should" save time (and no time wasted getting that pixel perfect > cross-browser user experience....which I LOVE). > > Cheers > > On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 12:08 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote: > > > Ok, Bryan... time for some questions about AIR. > > > > (I'm reading over the Adobe site concerning AIR, but > > wanted to ask an "advocate", as well...) > > > > First question is, how can AIR apps run on iOS? > > Isn't the output Flash based, which won't play on iOS? > > > > Rick > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:17 PM > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: RE: Need some perspective... > > > > > > Well Rick...one browser if you will...AIR ;-) > > > > On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 09:46 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the feedback, Maureen. > > > > > > I know how you feel. I wish we could just > > > have one browser to rule them all. I don't > > > even want to think about how good that would be... > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Maureen [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:56 AM > > > To: cf-talk > > > Subject: Re: Need some perspective... > > > > > > > > > Exactly my findings. There are still enough desktop users with > > > non-compliant browsers that HTML/CSS3 are problematic. I'm currently > > > refactoring all my sites for new technologies, attempting to make them > > > both fully assessable for screen reader/text browsers and for mobile > > > browsers. I'm doing a lot of detection and loading code and style > > > sheets based on what browser is being used, but it's a steady pain to > > > keep up with what works and what doesn't. When I get really grumpy, > > > my urge is to just feed a text based site to anyone using IE with a > > > note at the top that says if "you want to see the pretty stuff, get a > > > real browser". > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Sean Corfield <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Rick Faircloth > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> "To us or not to use HTML5 and CSS3" in desktop > > > >> and mobile development. > > > > > > > > This came up in a few sessions at JAXconf this week. The general > > > > consensus seemed to be that HTML5 / CSS3 is a solid bet for mobile - > > > > because mobile browsers offer solid support already. The same is not > > > > true on the desktop, unless you're prepared to "encourage" your users > > > > to upgrade / switch browsers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345776 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
