Dave i agree completly. questions like that are not appreciated where i am
currently!
i have found some basic tut's and will go through them. hopfuly i can set
up a test env on local machine without needing admin right to instal the
JDK.
hate being on lockdown. i need to change my outlook as every one has
already stated! being paid to learn is a good thing.
i should have done that with Java in 2001. things might be different now!


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Dave Watts <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > so we have some people at the top here wanting us to switch from cf to
> > groovy.
> > i have no control other then will support all apps until this thing
> happens.
> >
> > so was curious if any one here has done any groovy stuff, and what advice
> > they could give to a old man who has done cf since 1998.
> >
> > i don't want to learn it. but have to.
> > so any good books or resources that you know of?
> >
> > hoping it doesn't happen, or that i find another cf shop before it does.
>
> A bunch of other people have already replied about the positive value
> of learning new things. Remember, this is an industry where you
> constantly have to learn new things! Getting paid to learn them
> on-the-job is the best possible thing for you, personally.
>
> That said, it may not actually be the best thing for your employer,
> simply because the value of existing code is very, very high, as is
> the cost of rebuilding applications in a new language. So, you might
> want to ask your employer what value they expect to get from this?
>
> Honestly, as a consultant, I see this "we're going to rewrite all our
> language X applications in language Y", and it's usually just a way
> for consultants (like me!) to make money while providing very little
> actual value to the organization making the switch. It's true when
> people rewrite other applications in CF, and it's true when people
> rewrite CF applications in something else. The best approach is to
> build new applications in the new environment, and move old
> applications to the new environment when they need significant changes
> that would be expensive to implement even in CF.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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