>>I would recommend taking a look through http://compiledammit.com/. It is
authored by a group of ex-CFers who have moved over to Groovy land.

Great resource. Thanx Matt!

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On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Matt Quackenbush <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> I would recommend taking a look through http://compiledammit.com/. It is
> authored by a group of ex-CFers who have moved over to Groovy land. They
> have a series of posts that are written specifically for CFers, too.
>
> And +infinity to learning on the job.
>
> HTH
> On Mar 17, 2014 10:12 AM, "morchella" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dave i agree completly. questions like that are not appreciated where i
> am
> > currently!
> > i have found some basic tut's and will go through them. hopfuly i can set
> > up a test env on local machine without needing admin right to instal the
> > JDK.
> > hate being on lockdown. i need to change my outlook as every one has
> > already stated! being paid to learn is a good thing.
> > i should have done that with Java in 2001. things might be different now!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Dave Watts <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > so we have some people at the top here wanting us to switch from cf
> to
> > > > groovy.
> > > > i have no control other then will support all apps until this thing
> > > happens.
> > > >
> > > > so was curious if any one here has done any groovy stuff, and what
> > advice
> > > > they could give to a old man who has done cf since 1998.
> > > >
> > > > i don't want to learn it. but have to.
> > > > so any good books or resources that you know of?
> > > >
> > > > hoping it doesn't happen, or that i find another cf shop before it
> > does.
> > >
> > > A bunch of other people have already replied about the positive value
> > > of learning new things. Remember, this is an industry where you
> > > constantly have to learn new things! Getting paid to learn them
> > > on-the-job is the best possible thing for you, personally.
> > >
> > > That said, it may not actually be the best thing for your employer,
> > > simply because the value of existing code is very, very high, as is
> > > the cost of rebuilding applications in a new language. So, you might
> > > want to ask your employer what value they expect to get from this?
> > >
> > > Honestly, as a consultant, I see this "we're going to rewrite all our
> > > language X applications in language Y", and it's usually just a way
> > > for consultants (like me!) to make money while providing very little
> > > actual value to the organization making the switch. It's true when
> > > people rewrite other applications in CF, and it's true when people
> > > rewrite CF applications in something else. The best approach is to
> > > build new applications in the new environment, and move old
> > > applications to the new environment when they need significant changes
> > > that would be expensive to implement even in CF.
> > >
> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > > 1-202-527-9569
> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > > http://training.figleaf.com/
> > >
> > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> > > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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