Yea well I agree Ray, but they are also the people getting cheap VPS's and not securing there servers too.
What we can do, I am not sure there is any more than what is being done... Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com>wrote: > > If securing your server is considered extra curricular activity - ie stuff > you would do at a user group - then your priorities are way out of wack. > > (I mean you in general, not you specifically Andrew. ;) > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Andrew Scott <andr...@andyscott.id.au > >wrote: > > > > > Ray, > > > > Probably not... Other people should also remember that not everyone > spends > > time online in groups, they are 9 to 5 developers who have a life. These > > are the people who set these things up, these are the people that aren't > > being reached. Can more be done, don't think so. > > > > Regards, > > Andrew Scott > > WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ > > Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Playing attention to the requirement to inform these people about the > > > > need for extra lock down early in the process would be more effective > > > > in solving the problem than Adobe employees and evangelists ignoring > > > > the fact that these people exist and doing nothing more than yelling > > > > > > > > > > Um... who exactly is ignoring these people? You may argue the CF team > > > should do *more*, but they are not *ignoring* anyone. The Secure > Profile > > > was a *big* step to try to help lock things down out of the box. Hiring > > > Pete to write a guide, and hosting it, on *additional* steps was a good > > too > > > imo. > > > > > > Can even more be done - maybe so. I'd like the installer to point to > the > > > lock down guide so folks know it exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rah, Rah, Adobe as if the company had no place in the solution. > > > > > > > > > As if Adobe hasn't at least made an effort - oh wait - they did. > > > > > > Users must take some responsibility too, Maureen. You can't put it all > on > > > Adobe's shoulders here. If you let your nephew install a server and > don't > > > bother to double check his work, that is *your* fault, no one else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358157 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm