I agree.  While my delete button gets overheated from time to time, that's 
a small penalty for the usefulness of the list.  I think Al's suggestions 
below are more practical than setting up a new list.

The new rules, whichever list, should identify whether messages like this 
one are off topic.  I vote that they should be off-topic.  Such messages 
should go to the list moderator only.

best,  paul

At 11:12 PM 2/17/01 -0500, you wrote:

>I don't like the idea of a new list. Face it. 90% of us are going to join
>both lists anyway. Where is the savings?
>I run about 10 mailing list, and have run into this problem of too much off
>topic stuff a few times. I think I found a way to stop it....
>Just assign a few volunteers to be  the policemen.. to enforce the
>rules.  State the rules in a message once a week. Require descriptive
>subjects, and do not tolerate nonsense posts.
>    These "police" watch for bad messages, and send the poster a warning,
>explaining the rules, and threatening them if they continue, they
>will  require moderation ( a moderator would have to approve anything they
>send to the list) for their posts. On the second infraction,  put them on
>moderation - until they get a string of "good" posts through.
>
>
>
>Al Musella, DPM
>Musella Foundation
>
>
>
>
>At 08:36 PM 2/17/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >I like the cf-talk list the way it is.  I am a member of several
> >moderated lists and they leave a lot to be desire.
> >
> >Sometimes, something appears on the cf-talk list, that is a little
> >unexpected treasure... often it is OT...
> >
> >It more than compensates for the ones that are not of interest (to
> >me)... delete key fixes taht.
> >
> >I wish you success with the new list, I will subscribe.
> >
> >I hope that the heavyweight contributors will still participate in cf-talk!
>
>
>
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