My two cents.....

Why is it CF's answer to Visual Interdev? What about ColdFusion Studio? It
has a design tab if you must have a WYSIWYG environment. I always thought
that was the equivalent to Visual InterDev.

I've used Interdev......it is not an easy application to learn in any way
shape or form. I teach ColdFusion to students at a local college and I get
them after the ASP instructor had them, after they were exposed to Visual
Interdev.....and I got nothing but complaints on how hard it was to use.
ColdFusion Studio on the other hand, was picked up in a day or two. They
even began preferring it over Dreamweaver and UltraDev.

UlteDev is ok, but you still have the same old Dreamweaver interface.
Reminds me a lot of SaphireWeb actually with it's connections. We do have a
client that insists on using UltraDev, and it is getting them up and running
rather quickly, but they keep coming to us with code problems that can only
be fixed via the HTML source window. Of course, there are some diehards out
here that hate all the extraneous code it generates.

I guess we have to deal with it all anyway, seeing's how the two company's
merged. At least CF will get a better rap!

Cheers,
Erika


-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Bluestein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re:OT: Dreamweaver UltraDev 4


Just saw a demo at the ANYCFUG meeting last night.
It looks like UltraDev is CF's answer to MS Visual Interdev.
It sets up simple database functions (insert, delete, edit,
move to first, last, next, prev).  Does not, on its own, handle
relationships between tables(like the query window in CF) fields.
You must do it either in CF or in UD interface window.

All background code is visible, simple to follow and annotated.
When possible, it uses CFSCRIPT.

Has the same type interface as DreamWeaver.  Would have to
get used to the language and easily relate to the "user friendly"
window interface screens (how come I know in my head and
hands what to do but can not understand what information
these interfaces want for their text fields???)

Supposedly UD will import CF apps easily as well as custom
tags, etc.  Macromedia exhange has extensions - basically
code contributed by programmers - to expand UD's versatility.

It is not the answer to robust development,but it looks like it
can help minimize building simple administrative screens.

That's all I know for now.  Except that it is currently on sale
for under $600.




Carol L. Bluestein
Senior Programmer
NYS Office of Real Property
518-486-6335
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Subject:    OT: Dreamweaver UltraDev 4
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:       3/9/01 11:43 AM

I am reading the white paper on Dreamweaver UltraDev 4. So far, so good
I like what I am reading. Are there any pitfalls that I shold be aware
of if I decide to purchase this package?
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