I believe his first point speaks against companies which put out badly
designed or implemented products and then use lawyers and money to stop
others from exposing the problems. This would be similar to Ford and
Firestone trying to get a gag order out so that no one could talk about
their tire defects.

I think the core problem in this discussion is that the Macromedia acolytes
are taking the corporate stance. This stance seems to be that
Allaire/Macromedia has determined for it's customers that those customers
don't have any reason, that it agrees with, to decrypt ColdFusion templates
and that if, perchance they do have a reason that Macromedia, in its
infinite wisdom, hasn't considered or given credit to, then those customers
shouldn't have any problem waiting for, and paying for, tech support. I am
truly amazed at the arrogance portrayed by Macromedia's employees in arguing
this point, first by arguing it as if the only reason you'd need to decrypt
something is for illegal gain, and secondly by not recognizing and admitting
that a better system needs to be put in place. To try to spin this on your
customers and villainize them is just wrong.

The dark side is a tempting mistress, no?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Need decryptor tag for CFUG presentation


So, by your logic, if I use weak encryption, then I shouldn't try to stop
people from abusing it? Therefore, I shouldn't press charges against a
criminal if I don't use a strong lock? I may be stupid for not using a good
lock, but that doesn't mean I should get robbed.

Raymond Camden

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Need decryptor tag for CFUG presentation
>
>
> COmpanies that try to eradicate web items they do not like should be
> put on a list and publically humiliated...
>
> It is just such a dumb solution and keep those fancy expensive lawyers
> busY making money and the courts clogged with useless mounds of
> paperwork...
>
> change the encryption, framework it, or drop it...
>
> -paris
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