Hmmm, interesting comment.

What I assume to be my SessionID from my current Amazon.com sessions:

IE Session:  104-8981534-3506318
NS6 Session: 102-5233334-0108134


CFTOKENs for my current sessions on my CF Server:

IE Session:  3c154df-3b8b20b0-54b8-4cfa-8ebb-be0b2ac13e32
NS6 Session: 3e97129-07682ed4-cd01-435a-959c-b70a06ebcb07


My CFToken changes completely with each new session I create. Which seems
more secure?

Ken



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Randolph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFToken and CFID not secure for ecommerce


Hello All,

CFTOKEN AND CFID according to Macromedia's own admission and our own
internal testing is not secure enought for a web applications where credit
card data
and money is involved.  Goto a site like Amazon and notice the session ID
they use are not a wimpy numeric string, they use a long alpha-numeric
string.
CFToken and CFID is so easy to break it is amazing.  First of all most of
your administrators will be the lower numbered CFID's due to the nature of
how
they are handed out, that leaves only the cftoken for security purposes and
it being a numeric value only is less than secure.

Don't leave yourself open to hacking avoid relying on CFToken and CFID to
track secure sessions.

Cheers,

Mike Randolph
AbleCommerce, CEO

P.S. We respect our clients data and have never relyed on CFTOKEN and CFID,
our testing showed them to be way to insecure.  Thats the AbleCommerce
difference...We think, we test, we don't just copy, hack, sell and hope.


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