Ditto.  If we stop whining to the list then poor Matt won't have to constantly hold 
our hands and
say it will all be OK.  If you have a valid complaint then talk to the MM folks 
directly in charge
and let them know exactly what your problem is.  If you complain on the list then the 
right people
may not hear about the issue(s).

It's been said many times before on this list that MM is in the middle of merger 
pains.  The
combining of 2 distinct organizations is the #1 least understood portion of mergers 
and is also the
#1 cause of merger failure.  Just give them a break and sort things out.  We know the 
old Allaire
folks are good people and that they won't let things stray too far off track.

Now play nice ;-)

Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:13 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...


> I stopped short on this subject, as most developers would be aware that
> anything off this scale would take time to implement. After don't you
> developers have to deal with this in your own work!
>
> Give MM a go, it is a major overhaul that can not go without some
> hiccups :-)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2002 5:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...
>
> We announced this downtime in our forums and I did not do so here. It
> was
> my fault that an announcement wasn't made. I will after this note.
>
> Now in our defense, the whole web team at MM *IS* the old Allaire team
> and
> it is being DIRECTLY run by Jeremy Allaire and none other. Please lets
> just
> end the MM vs Allire stuff, it is pure fantasy.
>
> What are we doing taking the site down?
>
> The downtime is not to do any small maintenance, it is a complete switch
>
> off of Broadvision to a different ECRM system. No one here was happy at
> all
> with bringing so much functionality down for that long, but it has to be
>
> done in this case. Most of the site is fine, but anything that has to do
>
> with membership is down and that is the problem you all are running
> into.
>
> If you have been to the Exchange and ever tried to download an
> extension,
> you are familiar with some of the pain that our customers were going
> through. This switch is one of many that will lead to us using CF for
> all
> the parts of our site and that is a good thing and frankly is more
> important for you on this list than any other MM customer segment as it
> will help you point to a large site that is build entirely with MM
> products.
>
> Please have patience with us and know that we are not just doing dumb
> things like this for no reason.
>
>
> 
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