Hey, no fair starting this thread on a Friday night... you'll make me want to get all the messages at home like Matt and Jeremy do, to make sure I don't miss any juicy flames! ;-)
Summary: No hot fresh new info here, just bounce-offs and links from some of the previous comments. There's a solicitation or two at the end, too. At 8:02 PM 1/25/2, Paris Lundis wrote: > I try to go to the developer's download section and get > this lovely message: We were actually moving the servers, completely changing the network. That's why some of the web applications were offline, that's why there were alerts in the Macromedia forums beforehand. There will be additional work done next weekend, but I think the heaviest lifting was done this weekend past. The Allaire/Macromedia site merger has been accomplished on the visual level and it's pretty much accomplished at the infrastructure level too. At 6:04 AM 1/26/2, tom muck wrote: > Also, everything on the MM site seems to take forever. Turn off > the Flash and give me the information quickly. Are you seeing a Flash-related slowdown on any particular page? The nav elements should speed things up, not slow them down. Holler if there's a particular page I should test, thanks. At 11:43 AM 1/26/2, Bud wrote: > MM, if you're listening and it's not too late, build > the CF Dev Exchange with ColdFusion please. We've got a bunch of legacy web apps on the site... there's CF, and ASP, and JSP if you look in different places. ColdFusion is definitely the leading candidate for future application development! At 1:41 PM 1/27/2, Daryl Fullerton wrote: > Can you also give the links to the developers exchange more > prominance on the Macromedia site as that will probably be > one of the most commonly accessed parts of the site. Adding a link is always a two-edged sword... you want to set up a navigation system that presents enough choices, but not too many choices... you want to lead each visitor through the resources efficiently: quickly but without bewilderment. For the Exchange, I go to the front page, and click the "Designer & Developer" short cuts. This pops up a new Flash menu, with no page refresh needed. In this pane is a dropdown menu for all four of the Macromedia Exchanges: ColdFusion, Flash, Dreamweaver and UltraDev. Essentially the link is on the front page of the site, through a submenu. If you drop into the main Designer/Developer page you don't see the Exchanges, true... there's a designer set of Exchanges on one page and a developer set of Exchanges on the other. Was this the part that was the sticking-point for you, the main Des/Dev page...? If you'll be going there yourself, and haven't bookmarked it, then we've got the various Exchanges as a top-level directory on the site, easy to remember: http://www.macromedia.com/exchange/ At 2:03 PM 1/27/2, Howie Hamlin wrote: > I, for one, would like to see a separate developer site (for > example, developer.macromedia.com) where the front page is a > no-nonsense portal for all of the developer resources. This > way, www.macromedia.com stays as the marketing/sales site and > the other site makes it easy for us developers to find the > information and resources that we need. Agreed, that's essentially the plan for the new Designer/Developer Center... where the main Macromedia site focuses on sale and service of its tools, the new center will be arranged around what you're trying to do with any of various tools. Look for incremental upgrades over the next few weeks as we get the ball rolling here. At 2:08 PM 1/27/2, Kevin Langevin wrote: > Perhaps a group of us should get together and submit a proposal to > Macromedia for the developer site and see if they'd contract it out > to us. That way we get the site we want, they get happy developer > support, and they don't have to commit an entire team to get it built. Actually, just keep on doing what you're doing... one of the guiding principles behind the Design & Developers Center is that folks out there know more than we in here in the shop do, so we'll definitely be guiding people from the Des/Dev Center to places out in the world. Matt's the contact person here and there will be more news on this soon. At 11:44 AM 1/28/2, Jim Priest wrote: > On Monday, January 28, 2002, Matt Brown wrote: >> Hi just wanted to alert you that there is a developer site at >> Macromedia.com at: http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/developer/ > > Why the HUGE flash nav block that does nothing more than a few > (3 exactly) lines of simple HTML code would do in a lot less space? The "Designer Resources" link and the "Developer Resources" link are both set out with whitespace... these are higher-level links than each of the various content links. The "Tip of the Week" sections scroll... there are actually multiple pieces of content within that screen area. That "desdev_movies" SWF is less than 4K in size! Its audio is called up on-demand without having to refresh the page. It may be huge in screen area, but that's more a design choice than an implementation necessity... it's probably a little bigger fil than an HTML representation, but is definitely a smaller file than a GIF representation. The whole thing's smaller than my email, anyway.... ;-) We're definitely trying some new techniques here, working of a marriage of server-side interactivity and client-side interactivity... odds are strong we won't get everything optimized right out of the gate! But if you can send feedback directly to the site creation team then that could help steer the process, thanks: http://webforums.macromedia.com/macromediafeedback/ jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your email if it's not on the list. 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