Excellent post Bryan.   Couldn't agree more.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia.com

Can we stop all the fearmongering etc.!!!!!

If CF dies we all know how to develop web applications and can apply
that knowledge to a new
langauge..get over it!

CF ain't gonna die....MM is doing fine...again....get over it!

If I were MM and heard this much bitching I'd wonder why I was
supporting those bitching...stop
bitching!

If you like CF and want it to continue to flourish as it has...make
constructive comments to the
list and to MM that will help build a better product....don't post crap
and bitch and moan about
every litttle hiccup....this is life and in life sh^t happens...deal
with it!

Lets see some positive comments coming out...try not to scare off new
CFers with stupid useless
drivel.

Try using CF to build the next killer app and glorify MM and CF until
nobody has any choice but to
use CF because it can do wonderful things....hmmmmmm what a concept ;-)

My 2 cents and I'm stickin to it.

Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Cravens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Macromedia.com


> Undoubtedly it will change.  Will it go away?  As long as it's
profitable, I
> doubt it.  However, I continually ask myself, if [insert technology
here]
> disappeared tomorrow, could I feed my family?  I may like one language
or
> technology more than others, but I'll be damned if I'll bet my (and
others
> that depend on me) well-being on some company's (who's goal is profit,
not
> my well-being) product.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cantrell, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:15 AM
> Subject: RE: Macromedia.com
>
>
> > Even if the rumor is true or not, we can't kid ourselves into
thinking
> > ColdFusion will be around for much longer in it's current state.
It's
> > governed by a company that's core product is a plugin to display
moving
> > vector graphics. Granted, they have other products, I personally use
> > fireworks as an alternative to photoshop. That's all great, but we
can't
> > expect them to churn out and maintain a solid, server-side scripting
> engine,
> > capable of competing with it's FREE alternatives - for much longer.
It's
> > simply out of their scope.
> >
> > At first, I want to say "release it to the public, and charge for
studio
> > licenses", but then I look at the linux operating system, and that
blows
> > that whole idea out of the water (not trying to offend any hardcore
linux
> > advocates out there). There has to be some viable solution to
preserve
> this
> > tool without worrying about its parent's control over its existence.
I can
> > live with having to develop in PHP, ASP.NET, or even the dreaded
"J2EE"
> (VM
> > - blech), but I just don't want to. Cold Fusion makes it easy for me
to
> hack
> > something together in a day and please the boss or whoever it is I'm
> > developing for, which is great - "work smarter not harder" right?
It's
> solid
> > (if you know all the little gotchas), and it's clean. There's just
that
> one
> > big, dark cloud hovering above us all that quietly chants "I may not
be
> here
> > for you in a year, I may suddenly abandon you, your work will mean
nothing
> > then, you will have wasted 4 years living with me, I am the ghost of
> > Macromedia Future".
> >
> > Am I just crazy, or is anyone else in the same boat as I?
> >
> > Adam.
> >
> > ps. I'm not trying to sound like one of those "the end is near"
> > fearmongerers, I just want to see if I'm the only one that feels
this way.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frank Priest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:01 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Macromedia.com
> >
> >
> > MicroMedia
> > Big rumors abound in Macromedia land... word is the company is in
dire
> > straights and that discussions between Macromedia and Microsoft are
in
> > the works. Acquisition? Possibly... probably just Flash,
DreamWeaver,
> > and UltraDev -- and in the meanwhile, kill off MS ASP competitor
(not
> > really) ColdFusion. Who knows about FreeHand and Director... Layoffs
> > imminent.
> > When: 1/30/2002
> > Company: Macromedia
> >
> > http://fuckedcompany.com/
> >
> >
> 

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