Mr. Stevenson, Your comments, in my opinion, do a fairly inadequate job of sweeping the past, current and future concerns voiced by this forum, under the carpet.
Your lifetime experience regarding these very issues indicates you are quite naive to the course of the future of MM and CF. When the CF principals sold the small stock holders of their company down the river, thus creating the huge down gap in price and even huger monetary losses, it should have been evident to you that you and other CF'ers were going to begin to whistle a new tune, the MM Company tune. Is CF Dead, no, but it is dying. No problem for you though Bryan, As you so just stated "If CF dies we all know how to develop web applications and can apply that knowledge to a new language." What a great solution! In my opinion, your title should be "VP & Director of E-Commerce Development and Solutions" - you could be the VP of one and the Director of the other. Good Luck Tom t 03:36 PM 1/30/02, you wrote: >Can we stop all the fearmongering etc.!!!!! > >If CF dies we all know how to develop web applications and can apply that >knowledge to a new >langauge..get over it! > >CF ain't gonna die....MM is doing fine...again....get over it! > >If I were MM and heard this much bitching I'd wonder why I was supporting >those bitching...stop >bitching! > >If you like CF and want it to continue to flourish as it has...make >constructive comments to the >list and to MM that will help build a better product....don't post crap >and bitch and moan about >every litttle hiccup....this is life and in life sh^t happens...deal with it! > >Lets see some positive comments coming out...try not to scare off new >CFers with stupid useless >drivel. > >Try using CF to build the next killer app and glorify MM and CF until >nobody has any choice but to >use CF because it can do wonderful things....hmmmmmm what a concept ;-) > >My 2 cents and I'm stickin to it. > >Bryan Stevenson >VP & Director of E-Commerce Development >Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. >p. 250.920.8830 >e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] >--------------------------------------------------------- >Macromedia Associate Partner >www.macromedia.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Billy Cravens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:40 AM >Subject: Re: Macromedia.com > > > > Undoubtedly it will change. Will it go away? As long as it's > profitable, I > > doubt it. However, I continually ask myself, if [insert technology here] > > disappeared tomorrow, could I feed my family? I may like one language or > > technology more than others, but I'll be damned if I'll bet my (and others > > that depend on me) well-being on some company's (who's goal is profit, not > > my well-being) product. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cantrell, Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:15 AM > > Subject: RE: Macromedia.com > > > > > > > Even if the rumor is true or not, we can't kid ourselves into thinking > > > ColdFusion will be around for much longer in it's current state. It's > > > governed by a company that's core product is a plugin to display moving > > > vector graphics. Granted, they have other products, I personally use > > > fireworks as an alternative to photoshop. That's all great, but we can't > > > expect them to churn out and maintain a solid, server-side scripting > > engine, > > > capable of competing with it's FREE alternatives - for much longer. It's > > > simply out of their scope. > > > > > > At first, I want to say "release it to the public, and charge for studio > > > licenses", but then I look at the linux operating system, and that blows > > > that whole idea out of the water (not trying to offend any hardcore linux > > > advocates out there). There has to be some viable solution to preserve > > this > > > tool without worrying about its parent's control over its existence. > I can > > > live with having to develop in PHP, ASP.NET, or even the dreaded "J2EE" > > (VM > > > - blech), but I just don't want to. Cold Fusion makes it easy for me to > > hack > > > something together in a day and please the boss or whoever it is I'm > > > developing for, which is great - "work smarter not harder" right? It's > > solid > > > (if you know all the little gotchas), and it's clean. There's just that > > one > > > big, dark cloud hovering above us all that quietly chants "I may not be > > here > > > for you in a year, I may suddenly abandon you, your work will mean > nothing > > > then, you will have wasted 4 years living with me, I am the ghost of > > > Macromedia Future". > > > > > > Am I just crazy, or is anyone else in the same boat as I? > > > > > > Adam. > > > > > > ps. I'm not trying to sound like one of those "the end is near" > > > fearmongerers, I just want to see if I'm the only one that feels this > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Frank Priest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:01 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Macromedia.com > > > > > > > > > MicroMedia > > > Big rumors abound in Macromedia land... word is the company is in dire > > > straights and that discussions between Macromedia and Microsoft are in > > > the works. Acquisition? Possibly... probably just Flash, DreamWeaver, > > > and UltraDev -- and in the meanwhile, kill off MS ASP competitor (not > > > really) ColdFusion. Who knows about FreeHand and Director... Layoffs > > > imminent. > > > When: 1/30/2002 > > > Company: Macromedia > > > > > > http://fuckedcompany.com/ > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation � $99/Month � Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
