Yeah Java's not fast. ColdFusion should be written in Flash. That sounds fast. They should rename it "whoosh" and then it would sound even faster.
-Cameron PS: That was a joke. -------------------- Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software > -----Original Message----- > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:11 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Jeremy Allaire interview on DevX > > > Does anyone else see the sick irony of this? Macromedia is moving > to replace > Java with Flash as the client-side GUI because java is too slow, handles > differently in various VM's, and is basically a big POS, but on the > serverside, their whole next release will be built on this same > technology. > It seems backwards, but it technically DOES makes sense (if you're part of > the 99% of people that seem to think the server is a good home > for Java, I'm > personally in the 1% group that thinks Java should be homeless, but I > digress). You have to laugh at the situation and how Java has been juggled > around in general. What a kludge fest. > > Adam. > > ps. please don't take this as a flame to macromedia, more of a social > commentary. I too am hyped about NEO, hopefully it will finally > shut some of > the PHB's up that cry when something's not Java because they read > it was the > best in a magazine. I just wish Macromedia could be > impoliticly-correct and > say "yes, while java might be a big fat kludge-fest, it's still what > corporate-types demand. And since we'd like to stay in business > and possibly > make some big bucks, we're just going to give in and try to make the best > use of it. The product will work great, but we admit that it > probably could > have been done better if we didn't whore out to the hype." > > hmm... maybe I should quit doing web-development and give Public > Relations a > shot, think anyone would hire me? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:30 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Jeremy Allaire interview on DevX > > > > > > >> > > http://www.devx.com/free/hotlinks/2002/ednote020502/ednote020502.asp > > > > At 6:15 PM 2/7/2, Jon Hall wrote: > > > Does rich media mean video? > > > ...Is their an approximate release date for Flash 6 yet? > > > > I'm glad the interview sparked your interest, but am sorry to > > say that I > > can't speak about specific features in the next generation of > > Macromedia > > Flash yet. > > > > However, there *is* a Developer Release of the next-generation Player > > publicly available for compatibility testing... just click > > the "beta" link > > at the top of the FAQ: > > http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/public_beta/faq/ > > > > If you currently use SWF in your work then I'd urge you to > > doublecheck that > > this plays your existing work without adverse changes... if > > you notice any > > problems at all then alerting the engineering team > > immediately would be > > greatly appreciated: > > http://www.macromedia.com/bin/fp6betafeedback.cgi > > > > There has been public discussion about specific items in the > > context menu > > of this new Player, but those of us under NDA haven't yet > > been able to join > > in those discussions. Still, this may give some idea of where > > things are > > headed in this area...? > > > > > > > > For client-side Java, it can be useful, agreed. One of the > > problems though > > is that there are different Java Virtual Machines in use, so > > it's a chore > > to find a common feature set for a particular target audience. > > > > Even so, the total consumer viewership for Java applets in > > browsers today > > -- whatever flavor of Java -- is less than that for SWF files: > > <http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/ > > tech_breakdown > > html> > > > > The rate of evolution for Flash seems to be much faster than > > for Java as > > well, both on the development end and the distribution end... Flash's > > abilities have grown more rapidly than Java's abilities recently, and > > growth is *particularly* occurring in ColdFusion's direction. > > Consumers > > also adapt new Macromedia Flash Players far more rapidly than they'll > > update their Java installations. > > > > Total viewership, predictability and compatibility, growth towards > > ColdFusion Server... SWF does offer some increasingly clear > > advantages over > > Java for clientside UI construction. > > > > > > > > > If Macromedia is looking to broaden Flash's scope into application > > > design, I think it would be very exciting, which was what my whole > > > very speculative post was about. > > > > Cool, glad we share this sense of excitement... more concrete > > details will > > be available soon... I was glad to see Jeremy publicly lay > > the outline out > > in that interview. > > > > jd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US > > Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ > > Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your > > email if it's not on the list. Private one-on-one email options are > > available via Priority Access: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server � PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation � $99/Month � Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
