Hi Howard. The CSS issue was one of the main reasons that I started this post. I was working on a site and implemented some design elements using styles that really enhanced the appearance of the site. I actually did test it out in Netscape 6.2 as well as IE 5.5 and both rendered the site beautifully. The pain came in when I loaded up Netscape 4.7x. The site was just non-functional and it really irritated me. So it prompted me to do some homework to determine what other developers were doing.
Based on the feedback so far, its seems prudent to continue to support Netscape. I just wish that a baseline of Netscape 6.0 could be established but such a meaningful percentage of NS 4.7 users still out there, it appears that some workarounds will still be needed. Sigh... Thanks for your input. Rey/// ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:17 AM Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? > The site I mentioned in my previous e-mail is also an RV site. About the > same traffic. Average age of registered users is 56. > > My biggest problem isn't NS users, it's WebTV users. Currently, we only get > about 1.5 percent WebTV, but I get complaints from them all of the time. > Not so much design, but a lot of functionality (javascripts, form > submissions, picture uploads) don't work or don't work as well or work > inconsistently with WebTV (thought I haven't received a complaint in several > months, so maybe WebTV has improved). > > The redesign I'm working on right now looked great in IE. It totally falls > apart in NS 4.7. It's totally useless in 4.7. And my code is W3 validated. > But CSS is a huge problem. My solution will probably be to do a browser > redirect and send NS users to a totally stripped down version of the site. > It will pretty much be just black text, white background and links and > forms. No design. I want to have a site that useable for those 7 percent, > but with such a small audience, I'm not going to waste a lot of time on it. > > As far as I'm concerned (and this is just a personal opinion and how I > approach site building), IE's won. > > H. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Nunamaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:09 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? > > > We run an RV Classified site with about 40,000 visitors per month. The > average age of Rver's is in their early 60's. Believe it or not, about > 1.5% of our visitors use Netscape 3.0. > > We've had to code in FONT tags with the CSS classes so it didn't look > horrible in NS 3.0 > > Tom Nunamaker > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:04 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? > > > Here's my .02 cents.... > > I'm leaning towards giving more consideration to the Netscape 6.0 above > but > I'm not ready to declare Netscape 4.75 dead. I think there's still about > 10 > percent of the internet users that are using Netscape 4.75. Netscape 6.0 > is > coming along real nicely and I've seen some users jumping over from IE > to > Netscape 6.0. > > It would make sense if someone would overlook some of the small design > differences between Netscape 4.75 and 6.0 +. However, I wouldn't go too > far > in ignoring some of the glaring layout differences. The clients we work > with > generally have no understanding why there's a browser war, why netscape > 4.75 > doesn't support some of the HTML tags as well as IE does and etc. It > would > hurt the contractors' reputation if they were to ignore 4.75 as of now. > > If anyone wants to work with IE 5.5 and Netscape 6.0+ exclusively then > there > are almost zero differences between those versions. It'll make your job > much > easier. > > I have a small site tracking system on my site and every one user in > about > 10 or 15 users are showing up with a 4.75 version. So I have no choice > but to > design sites for 3 different versions. Thus, I'd recommend you do the > same > thing. > > > > > For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account > > Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator > > afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I > > should even bother worrying about > > whether my sites work with Netscape. > > > > Since this has been one of my best resources for info and some of the > > most talented and savvy people that I've met post to CF-Talk, I was > > hoping that I could get some good feedback. > > > > So, if we consider that the apps that I'm developing will be geared > > towards the Internet consumer at large and I won't have the luxury of > > developing for a controlled environment like a corporate intranet, I > > beg the question: > > > > Should I continue to worry about Netscape? If so, which version should > > serve > > as a baseline? > > > > Looking forward to your responses. > > > > C-ya, > > > > Rey... > > > Nathaniel Horwitz > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > AIM: NRHorwitz > Fax: 510-573-2298 > Web Site: http://www.nathanielhorwitz.com > > " What separates winning from losing is the head. The brain sometimes > doesn't > believe in the power of the body" > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
