Ok – this could get umm fangry for some, so try and remain calm and keep emotion out of it.
I've been a loud mouth in terms of the Price with FLEX and while at first I found it extremely over-inflated – looking back now and seeing the problems solved at the high end of town, its actually dirt cheap and as scary as that sounds. Breeze for my money is in the same light, as at first looking at its price tag you're easily fooled into thinking it is a heavy burden to wear up front. Yet, the amount of difference for example it would make within my business unit here at Qld Rail is significant in terms of ROI. For example, if I were to use it for say a project that is currently under way, and all I used it was to simply screen share, illustrate our known issues to the engineering team of whom are developing said project vs. not having something along these lines In place and instead having to either fly down each month or cut/paste inside word (then hope they understand the translation). Imagine the cost savings alone for such an item? You also have to understand that most government and larger players of town have zero patience for third-party concepts that have un-managed license set-ups or require some convoluted adjustment to their SOE tends to get the fangry out in certain IT gate keepers. So, that in mind you walk up to your local IT head honcho and request the use of breeze and simply state that all is needed is probably a power point plugin (for authors) and a browser with FLASH (which most SOE already cater to) that's it? Sold. Webqem folks have a nice ROI calculator (that isn't all fluff) and when put in those terms it does spell out that costing are still cheap. On top of that, the price structure and different variants involved seem to be attractive as well. There are a million and one ways in which you can use breeze to capture intelligence around project development but also retain certain communications that go against what governance you had in place for such projects. For me, personally, I need a way to solely record conversations with a supplier so that we both have a way to review meeting minutes in a more proactive way, but also should the event something stated escalate into legalities, we can demonstrate agreements said. If that is the case and it saves around $100k+ in legal costs, again? How does price factor in? The only thing really Adobe / Macromedia seem to be guilty of is directing their attention more so each year towards the higher-end of the market vs. the lower end, where its typically "I want the world, for $50" approach. Let's face it, and all here who've done consultancy at some point will agree, the web-development arena in a commercial sense is cut-throat and to then target that market with high-end technology with low-costs? Is energy best reserved for enterprise? On 1/20/06, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robin, > > Flex also started with outrageous prices. > > Breeze isn't 13.5 times better, as the price might indicate, I actually > think goto meeting is better, breeze doesn't allow you to save your meetings > locally which means you need to subscribe forever to keep them. > > Gotometting does. > > Regards > Dale Fraser > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Robin Hilliard > > Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2006 4:19 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Macromedia Pricing > > > > > > Erm, they've indicated the Flex 2 SDK will be free, is that cheap > > enough :-) And is gotomeeting equivalent to Breeze feturewise? > > > > Robin > > > > On 20/01/2006, at 3:58 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: > > > > > > > > Why do Macromedia develop great products, just to slap outrageous > > > prices on > > > them for long enough for the competitors to come along an do it > > > cheeper. > > > > > > Flex for example. > > > > > > Now > > > > > > Breeze, 32k+ for a server license, or about $670 pcm hosted. > > > > > > Can get gotomeeting for $50 per month, a citrix product. > > > > > > It's really disappointing. > > > > > > Regards > > > Dale Fraser > > > > ______________ > > > > Robin Hilliard > > Director - RocketBoots Pty Ltd > > Professional Services for Macromedia Technologies > > http://www.rocketboots.com.au > > > > For schedule/availability call Pamela Higgins: > > w +61 7 5451 0362 > > m +61 419 677 151 > > e [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > or Direct: > > m +61 418 414 341 > > f +61 2 9798 0070 > > e [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > *** Register for WebDU http://www.mxdu.com 2-3 March 2006 *** > > > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com
