Yeah good point, So as long as
1. Your prepared to pay $680 per month 2. For ever 3. You should buy it Or 1. Your prepared to pay $680 per month 2. And loose all your content when you change to something else Regards Dale Fraser > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Scott Barnes > Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2006 5:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Macromedia Pricing > > Ok - this could get umm fangry for some, so try and remain calm and > keep emotion out of it. > > I've been a loud mouth in terms of the Price with FLEX and while at > first I found it extremely over-inflated - looking back now and seeing > the problems solved at the high end of town, its actually dirt cheap > and as scary as that sounds. > > Breeze for my money is in the same light, as at first looking at its > price tag you're easily fooled into thinking it is a heavy burden to > wear up front. Yet, the amount of difference for example it would make > within my business unit here at Qld Rail is significant in terms of > ROI. > > For example, if I were to use it for say a project that is currently > under way, and all I used it was to simply screen share, illustrate > our known issues to the engineering team of whom are developing said > project vs. not having something along these lines In place and > instead having to either fly down each month or cut/paste inside word > (then hope they understand the translation). > > Imagine the cost savings alone for such an item? > > You also have to understand that most government and larger players of > town have zero patience for third-party concepts that have un-managed > license set-ups or require some convoluted adjustment to their SOE > tends to get the fangry out in certain IT gate keepers. > > So, that in mind you walk up to your local IT head honcho and request > the use of breeze and simply state that all is needed is probably a > power point plugin (for authors) and a browser with FLASH (which most > SOE already cater to) that's it? > > Sold. > > Webqem folks have a nice ROI calculator (that isn't all fluff) and > when put in those terms it does spell out that costing are still > cheap. On top of that, the price structure and different variants > involved seem to be attractive as well. > > There are a million and one ways in which you can use breeze to > capture intelligence around project development but also retain > certain communications that go against what governance you had in > place for such projects. > > For me, personally, I need a way to solely record conversations with a > supplier so that we both have a way to review meeting minutes in a > more proactive way, but also should the event something stated > escalate into legalities, we can demonstrate agreements said. > > If that is the case and it saves around $100k+ in legal costs, again? > How does price factor in? > > The only thing really Adobe / Macromedia seem to be guilty of is > directing their attention more so each year towards the higher-end of > the market vs. the lower end, where its typically "I want the world, > for $50" approach. > Let's face it, and all here who've done consultancy at some point will > agree, the web-development arena in a commercial sense is cut-throat > and to then target that market with high-end technology with > low-costs? Is energy best reserved for enterprise? > > > > > > On 1/20/06, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Robin, > > > > Flex also started with outrageous prices. > > > > Breeze isn't 13.5 times better, as the price might indicate, I actually > > think goto meeting is better, breeze doesn't allow you to save your > meetings > > locally which means you need to subscribe forever to keep them. > > > > Gotometting does. > > > > Regards > > Dale Fraser > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of Robin Hilliard > > > Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2006 4:19 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Macromedia Pricing > > > > > > > > > Erm, they've indicated the Flex 2 SDK will be free, is that cheap > > > enough :-) And is gotomeeting equivalent to Breeze feturewise? > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > On 20/01/2006, at 3:58 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Why do Macromedia develop great products, just to slap outrageous > > > > prices on > > > > them for long enough for the competitors to come along an do it > > > > cheeper. > > > > > > > > Flex for example. > > > > > > > > Now > > > > > > > > Breeze, 32k+ for a server license, or about $670 pcm hosted. > > > > > > > > Can get gotomeeting for $50 per month, a citrix product. > > > > > > > > It's really disappointing. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Dale Fraser > > > > > > ______________ > > > > > > Robin Hilliard > > > Director - RocketBoots Pty Ltd > > > Professional Services for Macromedia Technologies > > > http://www.rocketboots.com.au > > > > > > For schedule/availability call Pamela Higgins: > > > w +61 7 5451 0362 > > > m +61 419 677 151 > > > e [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > or Direct: > > > m +61 418 414 341 > > > f +61 2 9798 0070 > > > e [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > *** Register for WebDU http://www.mxdu.com 2-3 March 2006 *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com
