[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?

[Gareth Edwards]

Some how I don't think it would be easy for them to do, but plenty of people have requested it, so hopefully its something they are looking in to. I think if Adobe were more open about the java that Coldfusion creates, you could probably use some sort of java debugging and trace it back to the coldfusion source. Or maybe Adobe could create something that traces the java back to the source for you? *shrugs* Cheers Gareth. Dale Fraser wrote: Yep, I mention it as often as possible in blogs also, hoping it will get picked up. If you read bens comment in your link, it sounds like they might give us something like this in 8, he hints at it. I'm no guru, but java has it and CF runs on java, so it should be easy :) I'd also imagine taking the 10% of stuff you cant do with CFSCRIPT and including this would be easy, but I've read posts from Ben hinting cfscript wont be supported long term (perhaps something else) java, EMCAS, action script. Just have a tagless option anyway. Regards Dale Fraser -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 16:17 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone? We need a language that is not only quick and easy to develop in, but also easy to debug and maintain long term. agreed! http://www.techfeed.net/blog/index.cfm/2006/3/28/PHP-Debugging-is-Better-Tha n-ColdFusion On 5/8/06, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sad, so sad. I have to say, that if CF 8 isn't oo and doesn't have break point debugging, I too will be moving all our development to .NET The cost is an issue to some, but for me it's the language and tools that hurts the most. PHP, JSP & .NET are Free full OO, with break point debugging. CF is much more rapid for development which may justify the not free bit, but there is no excuse for the lack of OO and break point bits. Why even wait for CF8? Well there is a bit of me that hopes they make CF fully CFSCRIPT available, with more OO and break point debugging and I know they are thinking about these issues. But I'm mainly wanting to see which way they go. If CF8 comes out as lots more Flash & Flex stuff, then I'm on the wrong ship. We need a language that is not only quick and easy to develop in, but also easy to debug and maintain long term. PS: Non CF people looking at code like <cfloop from="1" just turn their nose up at the language. If CF supported <CFSCRIPT syntax for everything, then this would not be an issue. Ie for (i=0; i<10; i++) is familiar across languages. Regards Dale Fraser ________________________________ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M@ Bourke Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 14:53 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone? I hate to say it but my little team hear, may have to jump to .NET soon >but I don't want to make that decesion. But if the clients want it we >do it. Hi Jeremy very funny cfdump joke now if pricing is simply the only reason for changeing why not php or 1 of the many other free languages over .net? you already said they are using windoze, so no use me saying cf on linux may be cheaper then .net on windoze :S M@ > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---