[cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?

Sun, 07 May 2006 23:45:02 -0700

Some how I don't think it would be easy for them to do, but plenty of people have requested it, so hopefully its something they are looking in to.

I think if Adobe were more open about the java that Coldfusion creates, you could probably use some sort of java debugging and trace it back to the coldfusion source. Or maybe Adobe could create something that traces the java back to the source for you?

*shrugs*

Cheers
Gareth.

Dale Fraser wrote: 
Yep,

I mention it as often as possible in blogs also, hoping it will get picked
up. If you read bens comment in your link, it sounds like they might give us
something like this in 8, he hints at it.

I'm no guru, but java has it and CF runs on java, so it should be easy :)

I'd also imagine taking the 10% of stuff you cant do with CFSCRIPT and
including this would be easy, but I've read posts from Ben hinting cfscript
wont be supported long term (perhaps something else) java, EMCAS, action
script. Just have a tagless option anyway.

Regards
Dale Fraser




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Barry Beattie
Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 16:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?


  
We need a language that is not only quick and easy to develop in, but also
    
easy to debug and maintain long term.

agreed!
http://www.techfeed.net/blog/index.cfm/2006/3/28/PHP-Debugging-is-Better-Tha
n-ColdFusion


On 5/8/06, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Sad, so sad.



I have to say, that if CF 8 isn't oo and doesn't have break point
    
debugging,
  
I too will be moving all our development to .NET



The cost is an issue to some, but for me it's the language and tools that
hurts the most. PHP, JSP & .NET are Free full OO, with break point
debugging. CF is much more rapid for development which may justify the not
free bit, but there is no excuse for the lack of OO and break point bits.



Why even wait for CF8? Well there is a bit of me that hopes they make CF
fully CFSCRIPT available, with more OO and break point debugging and I
    
know
  
they are thinking about these issues. But I'm mainly wanting to see which
way they go. If CF8 comes out as lots more Flash & Flex stuff, then I'm on
the wrong ship.



We need a language that is not only quick and easy to develop in, but also
easy to debug and maintain long term.



PS: Non CF people looking at code like <cfloop from="1" just turn their
    
nose
  
up at the language. If CF supported <CFSCRIPT syntax for everything, then
this would not be an issue. Ie for (i=0; i<10; i++) is familiar across
languages.


Regards
 Dale Fraser

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
    
Behalf
  
Of M@ Bourke
 Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 14:53 PM

 To: [email protected]
 Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Where have all the CF developers gone?







    
I hate to say it but my little team hear, may have to jump to .NET soon
      
 >but I don't want to make that decesion. But if the clients want it we
 >do it.

 Hi Jeremy
 very funny cfdump joke

 now if pricing is simply the only reason for changeing why not php or 1
    
of
  
the many other free languages over .net?
 you already said they are using windoze, so no use me saying cf on linux
may be cheaper then .net on windoze :S

 M@



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