You're being negative Barry :) stop it :)

You can go with a pre-ordained schedule, or you can go with a fluid approach
or not. The question overall though for everyone whom wants to attend is
simple:

"What do you want to get out of it?"

You have folks from all walks of life there, this would be the time to throw
out the hard questions or even the easy questions. That or ask for a
particular topic to be expanded on?

"What does CF8 + .NET Really mean?" - Robin's going to do be pumping out a
topic of this kind at Web On The Piste so maybe he could bring it back to
CFCAMP and so on? :)

I guess the missing piece is more the naming .. in that
"BarCamp,PodCamp,RoRCamp" etc all follow a typical formula and what you're
proposing is more of a mini-conference approach (not that isn't a bad idea).
Yet this is kind of different to what Gary is stating on how other "CAMPS"
run :)

Branding and semantics I guess...

Anywho, I'd opt for a more Community interactive experience instead of
people talking at you vs with you :)


On 8/18/07, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Love the Perth crowd..
>
> yeah, they rock.
>
> > Once that happens, you present but it's not so much a presentation but
> more
> > of a conversation, that all are invited in. Interact share the ideas and
> > build up from them and you may get your next session out of it and so
> on...
>
> keep it free-form? like a bunch of muso's having a jam, or rather a
> bunch of soloists being egged on the stage to have a bit of a blow and
> entertain the rest?
>
> can I just float a presentation model that I've seen work really well?
> seen on the OnAIR bus tour but not come across it much elsewhere in
> Adobe circles ... the breakout. Someone with a specific  issue corners
> a specialist/presenter and says "I've got this problem" and they find
> somewhere quiet with their laptops to work on it together where it's a
> true one-to-one to solve it and enlighten that person. Think "student
> with personal tutor" to solve their specific issue. it usually
> attracts a crowd so more than one person learns but the personal
> attention on something very specific can be much more valuable for
> that person standard presentations, and much more reason for them to
> turn up.
>
> > keep it CF related but the best formula is to simply rock up on the day
> > armed with presentation you want to give.
>
> one dynamic that's could be being missed is the fact that people do
> have day jobs... just today I got landed with a meeting in the morning
> of the day. I'm the small fry joining my boss and his boss in it.
> I can just imagine it now: "you want to reschedule the meeting for us
> all? to go to ... what? What's this 'ColdFusion' thing - is it one of
> our projects?"
>
> some people need buy-in to justify going Vs a day of lost
> productivity. I can fully imagine some ppl driving over from work,
> picking up a 2 hour carpark just for the sessions they really want to
> see then bailing back to work.
>
> It'd be nice to drag the boss along too with the rest of the team and
> make a day of it (one in the team gets pushed onto the stage by the
> others to present - the home-town supporters go nuts to egg them on) -
> but that's not going to work for everyone.
>
> I'm just having trouble visualising the role of local involvement
> outside the regular CFUG structure.  I fully realise that the local
> user groups only represent a sub-section of the local developers (it'd
> be heartening if it had more) so events like this are the perfect
> opportunity for other locals to come out and add to the event. but
> with three weeks to go local involvement is looking a bit thin...
>
> I've stuck my neck out for a presso (my second choice - the bastard
> that bagsey'ed my first choice better bloody-well commit 'cos it's too
> late for me to change now) so this event is a perfect opportunity for
> other locals to step up and shine and they don't have to be a regular
> CFUG'er to chip in.
>
> http://cfcamp.pbwiki.com/
>
> eh my 2c
>
> >
>


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Scott Barnes
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