You two chill.. don't make me bring out Andrew Scott to finish this thread off :) hehehe.
I take Gary's point, if you are looking to sell the CFCAMP to CFAUSSIE ? then well.. controlled brand kept in tact. If you're looking to entice other communities (PHP, ASP, ROR etc) then the CAMP concept means different things to whats being pitched. That being said, nothing appears to be set in stone yet so a comprimise can surely be had :) Let's not argue, let's look to producing a kickyarse event that puts CF on the map? On 8/18/07, Gary Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Steve Onnis wrote: > > Gary its just a name for god sake. > > > > What would you prefer? "CFDAYSPA"? > > > > > > " > > CFDAYSPA > > ============= > > An experience that will restore balance and leave a lasting sense of > calm > > and wellbeing. Stimulate your senses with this rejuvenating therapy, > which > > includes Coldfusion 8, a hint of FLEX and some soothing TRANSFORM to > ease > > your mind and align your mind, body and development to become a single > > entity. Designed to rebalance tired and stressed online applications, > the > > mind is treated with powerful active and potent presenters, essential > > information and wonderful ambience to heal, smooth and restore vitality. > > Caring for all the zone therapy areas - the hands, finders, head and > mind, > > CFDAYSPA not only recharges the body, but give a new lease on web > > development and rekindles passion for the web. > > " > > > > Hows that for you Gary? > > > > Steve > > > Yes it's just a name! However branding is everything. If you are > promoting an event the name is critical. If you brand it as a "camp" > and don't deliver a camp format aren't you: > > 1) sullying the expectations of the people on the edges of the > coldfusion community that are attending expecting a Camp style event. > 2) weakening the branding and marketing of the "camp" style events. > 3) showing that coldfusion people just don't understand what is > happening in the web industry. And I know this is wrong, but you don't > want to do it. > > Take another view point if you called it CF roadshow of CF conference > and didn't deliver it those formats you would question why wouldn't > you. If you brought a software application that was labeled as "Great > Project Management software" and it was just a single task list you > would an annoyed. Same concept. > > If you want to really attract people beyond the usual crowd then you > really have to promote the event beyond the usual Coldfusion community. > You have to involve the web industry at large, this way you you will > get a range of topics with a solid core of CF related topics. > > Don't want a "Camp" style event, just hand it over to adobe, and sit back. > > I am hoping the coldfusion community can standup and show the rest of > Web Industry that it is alive and well beyond the usual User Group > meetings. > > Gary Barber > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > > Of Gary Barber > > Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2007 12:44 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Australia Is GO > > > > > > Mark Mandel wrote > > > > > >> Gary - what state are you in? > >> > >> > >> > > Have people considered if its a "camp" style event of doing it on a > weekend, > > as you normally do. This is so you get maximum attendance, get to use > > educational facilities in some cases etc. During the working week may > work > > for a roadshow. not a "camp" > > > > I'm in Perth. > > > > Gary Barber > > > >> On 8/18/07, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>> You're being negative Barry :) stop it :) > >>>> > >>>> > >>> nah, I'm not, you're reading it wrong. I'm being a bit realistic, > >>> sure and a bit disappointed the Queensland representation is thin so > >>> far > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> The question overall though for everyone whom wants to attend is > >>>> simple: > >>>> "What do you want to get out of it?" > >>>> > >>>> > >>> 100% agreement there. > >>> > >>> It's the same for any community involvement, including Adobe user > >>> groups, the kids school's P&C, your local soccer club committee, etc. > >>> For example the people putting on user groups are really just > >>> facilitators to allow a community to have a focus. Smooth the wheels > >>> to keep the doors open and people coming back - people are very > >>> welcomed to contribute and even drive the agenda. No one owns the > >>> community, the trick is to "have a go". Life be in it, rah rah. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Anywho, I'd opt for a more Community interactive experience instead > >>>> of people talking at you vs with you :) > >>>> > >>>> > >>> who cares what it's called? the wiki is there for people to put their > >>> hand up. Heck, if my presso gets bumped because a bunch of people > >>> start overflowing up the agenda and I'm an old stallwart, I'm cool > >>> with that. > >>> > >>> the trick, as I said, is to have a go. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. 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