Scott your too funny...


On 8/18/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You two chill.. don't make me bring out Andrew Scott to finish this thread
> off :) hehehe.
>
> I take Gary's point, if you are looking to sell the CFCAMP to CFAUSSIE ?
> then well.. controlled brand kept in tact. If you're looking to entice other
> communities (PHP, ASP, ROR etc) then the CAMP concept means different things
> to whats being pitched. That being said, nothing appears to be set in stone
> yet so a comprimise can surely be had :)
>
> Let's not argue, let's look to producing a kickyarse event that puts CF on
> the map?
>
>
>  On 8/18/07, Gary Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Steve Onnis wrote:
> > > Gary its just a name for god sake.
> > >
> > > What would you prefer?  "CFDAYSPA"?
> > >
> > >
> > > "
> > > CFDAYSPA
> > > =============
> > > An experience that will restore balance and leave a lasting sense of
> > calm
> > > and wellbeing. Stimulate your senses with this rejuvenating therapy,
> > which
> > > includes Coldfusion 8, a hint of FLEX and some soothing TRANSFORM to
> > ease
> > > your mind and align your mind, body and development to become a single
> > > entity.  Designed to rebalance tired and stressed online applications,
> > the
> > > mind is treated with powerful active and potent presenters, essential
> > > information and wonderful ambience to heal, smooth and restore
> > vitality.
> > > Caring for all the zone therapy areas - the hands, finders, head and
> > mind,
> > > CFDAYSPA not only recharges the body, but give a new lease on web
> > > development and rekindles passion for the web.
> > > "
> > >
> > > Hows that for you Gary?
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > Yes it's just a name!  However branding is everything.  If you are
> > promoting an event the name is critical.  If you brand it as a "camp"
> > and don't deliver a camp format aren't you:
> >
> > 1) sullying the expectations of the people on the edges of the
> > coldfusion community that are attending expecting a Camp style event.
> > 2) weakening the branding and marketing of the "camp" style events.
> > 3) showing that coldfusion people just don't understand what is
> > happening in the web industry. And I know this is wrong, but you don't
> > want to do it.
> >
> > Take another view point if you called it CF roadshow of CF conference
> > and didn't deliver it those formats you would question why wouldn't
> > you.   If you brought a software application that was labeled as "Great
> > Project Management software" and it was just a single task list you
> > would an annoyed. Same concept.
> >
> > If you want to really attract people beyond the usual crowd then you
> > really have to promote the event beyond the usual Coldfusion community.
> > You have to involve the web industry at large,  this way you you will
> > get a range of topics with a solid core of CF related topics.
> >
> > Don't want a "Camp" style event, just hand it over to adobe, and sit
> > back.
> >
> > I am hoping the coldfusion community can standup and show the rest of
> > Web Industry that it is alive and well beyond the usual User Group
> > meetings.
> >
> > Gary Barber
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Gary Barber
> > > Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2007 12:44 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Australia Is GO
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark Mandel wrote
> > >
> > >
> > >> Gary - what state are you in?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > > Have people considered if its a "camp" style event of doing it on a
> > weekend,
> > > as you normally do.  This is so you get maximum attendance, get to use
> > > educational facilities in some cases etc.  During the working week may
> > work
> > > for a roadshow. not a "camp"
> > >
> > > I'm in Perth.
> > >
> > > Gary Barber
> > >
> > >> On 8/18/07, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>> You're being negative Barry :) stop it :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> nah, I'm not, you're reading it wrong. I'm being a bit realistic,
> > >>> sure and a bit disappointed the Queensland representation is thin so
> > >>> far
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> The question overall though for everyone whom wants to attend is
> > >>>> simple:
> > >>>> "What do you want to get out of it?"
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> 100% agreement there.
> > >>>
> > >>> It's the same for any community involvement, including Adobe user
> > >>> groups, the kids school's P&C, your local soccer club committee,
> > etc.
> > >>> For example the people putting on user groups are really just
> > >>> facilitators to allow a community to have a focus. Smooth the wheels
> >
> > >>> to keep the doors open and people coming back - people are very
> > >>> welcomed to contribute and even drive the agenda.  No one owns the
> > >>> community, the trick is to "have a go". Life be in it, rah rah.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Anywho, I'd opt for a more Community interactive experience instead
> > >>>> of people talking at you vs with you :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> who cares what it's called? the wiki is there for people to put
> > their
> > >>> hand up. Heck, if my presso gets bumped because a bunch of people
> > >>> start overflowing up the agenda and I'm an old stallwart, I'm cool
> > >>> with that.
> > >>>
> > >>> the trick, as I said, is to have a go.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Scott Barnes
> http://www.mossyblog.com
> >
>


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