I've certainly seen people I'd class as 'Juniors' graduating from uni. 
As an employer I've seen kids come out of QUT's IT program having spent 
3 years in the database stream and the only DB they've used is access, 
and the only programming they know how to do is through a wizard.

If you go back to uni after working in the industry for a while, you'll 
be horrified at how little the kids know, and how wildly out of 
date/mickey mouse the course material often is. I've heard suggestions 
that they deliberately push older/mickey mouse tech because it's more 
widely used in small business which is where most Australians end up 
working - but as an employer - it's much harder then it should be to 
find a graduate who actually knows what they're talking about. Usually 
we end up spending as much time training recent grads as we do training 
an ex helpdesk monkey.

Steve Onnis wrote:
> Is there such a thing as junior developers these days?  I mean what sort of
> skill set does a uni student come out with these days and what unis still
> pump out web developers? 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of David Heacock
> Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2008 11:42 PM
> To: cfaussie
> Subject: [cfaussie] Wanted: junior css/html ninja
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> If anyone knows a junior developer with strong skills in CSS and HTML, I'm
> looking for a contractor in Canberra for about 20 hours per week on-site.
> Coldfusion skills would be an advantage, but not required.
> Like I said, this is a junior position, so a current student, recent
> graduate or self-taught geek would be right for the job.
>
> Please ask them contact David Heacock at The ZOO Group, 02 6260 8777.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> >
>   


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