LoL...

Mark,

When I was looking for work a few years ago, the amount of Developers
looking for work was more than what jobs were available. Now it is the other
way around, now even though the amount of work is not what it was 8-10 years
ago, is maybe beside the point.

What is the point is that me as a developer, has struggled to remain a
Coldfusion developer in my work place. For the same reason that this is
being discussed, the decision was made a year ago that rather than try to
get the resources we need to move forward as a company. That we would switch
to Java, but once that decision was made, there was nothing more I could do
in our company to persuade the powers to be. And in the end after we
discussed the pros and cons, it was the best for our company.

Chad has already stated the same thing, and I am sure there are many others.
Me I no longer get to decide if Coldfusion is the best tool for the job any
more, and as much as I would like to remain a CF developer I can't in my
current position.

Now we all know that there are a lot of companies out there looking for
Coldfusion developers, and what percentage are these being redeveloped
because the resources are not as good as they should be?

I don't feel like getting into a debate, because at the end of the day we
all can see what is happening. The question remains, can we turn this around
and if so how do we get the companies that are looking for the resources to
get what they need with ease?

I have already put my hands up as an employee for my company, to offer our
companies services as a Coldfusion developer to anyone who needs help. But
that virtually fell on deaf ears as well, people seem to want that permanent
person. And that is understandable.


Andrew.


-----Original Message-----
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Mark Mandel
Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2008 9:45 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD
from them too?


How does 'if these developers are fighting for CF' mean that there is no
work?

I'm failing to see the connection, Sorry.

I'm not saying there isn't things that can't be fixed, and we could
sure use the new blood, and various other bits and pieces.

I mean, I've seen you bring up the same issues times and time again,
but the question I guess is - are you in the same boat as those you're
actually complaining about? What are you doing to fight to stay a CF
developer? What are you doing for the community?

And I'm not saying that as a dig, but I'm saying that the solution is
in your hands.  You want a better CF future, you should make one.
Preaching to the choir never did much for anyone.

And that goes generally for anyone who is worried about CF's future.
If you want something to happen, you have to make it happen.

It's actually a pretty simple equation I think.

Mark


On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 9:29 AM, CyberAngel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Mark,
>
>  True, but how many of these developers are fighting to stay a Coldfusion
>  dveleoper?
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
>
> Of Mark Mandel
>  Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2008 9:27 AM
>  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not
FUD
>  from them too?
>
>
>
>
> > those who are
>  >  coldfusion developers can't find work.
>
>  I have to disagree on this point.  Every AU CF developer I know is
>  gainfully employed.
>
>  I actually don't see the lack of work in AU.  I agree it's becoming
>  increasingly hard to find developers, but in terms of getting
>  employed, it's a real employee's market out there.
>
>  Mark
>
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