No offence Peter & Charlie,
But you are both non Australians, and here in Australia the job market is nonexistent and has been that way for 5 years. The point I made to Sean was simple, if the sales of Coldfusion is stronger than ever before. Why are the jobs for Coldfusion not increasing? And since that discussion nothing has changed. The perception is still the same, now whether we get out there more and promote the product is not the issue. But whether Adobe get out there and help us out more on this issue as well. But till there is a market shift in more jobs, this could be discussed for the next 5 years and that's when I want to see more jobs for Coldfusion developers. But right now what incentive is a prospective Coldfusion developer have if there is no job for him/her to go too? Same words, same argument only 5 years later. Andrew Scott From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of charlie arehart Sent: Saturday, 12 April 2008 3:19 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD from them too? Good on ya, Pete. :-) And good point about how more may be being done than is recognized. We clearly have a large hill to climb, and it may seem like we're making no progress. Good to point out that there are indeed some efforts underway. /charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Bell Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:11 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD from them too? And as mentioned when this came up on another list recently, I think people do evangelize outside the community. In the last year I presented at ooPSLA '07 in Montreal, the Domain Specific Modeling Forum, the British Computer Society Software Practices Advancement group and Code Generation 2007. In each case there are some pretty influential developers and in each case I mention the language I use and why I choose it over Python, PHP, Ruby, C# or Java. Of course, the thing about evangelizing outside of the community is that nobody within the community knows when it's being done! Also Dan Wilson is doing great stuff on DZone and Kay S on SitePoint getting the ColdFusion word out, so it's getting there . . . Best Wishes, Peter --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---