In Brisbane 2yrs ago, I was getting around 60-90k mark for CF Work depending
on how bad of a shape the company was in and what I was there to do.

That being said, I've never meet a bad coldfusion developer, only a
developer with a bad attitude :). Some of the "noobies" I've seen been
classed as that, run rings around the "seniors" as they are still passionate
about their choice in technology, eager to learn (which leads to work being
actually done instead of talked about) and in all, it's been great to see
them thrive in it all.

I say, when you interview folks, ask them about what they do outside of
work, if they are doing home-projects in CF or whatever, hire them on the
spot. Shows they are passionate about their technology and give them a
jersey. $45-50k for a Junior, and 60-90k for a Senior. 90k+ for a Architect
(but usually they'll come armed with to the teeth with a broad range of
technologies).

Scott.



On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Kai Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Eliseo,
>
> >That's nonsense... there's CF Developers around providing the company
> >wanting to do the hiring has enough $$ to persuade someone to come on
> >board...
>
> Oh, let's start a new 100+ post discussion on the topic of salaries
> paid by CF development shops - I find that really interesting,
> particularly because everyone here in NZ is talking about the big
> brain-drain, people leaving the country for overseas work, huge
> skills shortage etc, and also because I'm running a company myself
> for a while now.
>
> Speaking from a New Zealand point of view - it's not much of a surprise,
> with for instance seeing advertisement on seek where "international media"
> companies up in Auckland (which is shockingly expensive to live at - even
> with European or US costs of living in mind) are willing to pay 50-65k NZ$
> annual salary for an experienced CF/Flex developer. Seriously - you get
> what you ask for.
>
> Paying someone experienced, who might be even motivated enough to continue
> educating him/herself and is maybe even involved in whatever sort of
> community
> activities (even if it's "just" reading a mailing list), such a salary
> leads to fluctuation, staff turnover, staff feeling not valued etc. I'm
> not
> saying that it all comes down to salary, certainly not. But companies
> can't
> expect to get the super-rockstar developers for such a salary.
>
> I once read an article written by a well-known business consultant here
> in NZ and he was saying it wasn't worth it to pay people higher than
> average
> salaries, it wasn't worth it to give them an annual salary increase
> exceeding
> CPI etc and that his recommendation would be to always get juniors in,
> train them up and then - even if they leave after one year - just get
> another junior in to replace the person. Seriously - I think it's
> absolutely the wrong approach - but that's me. Yes, a company with a
> certain
> size would need a certain percentage of junior developers to work more
> efficiently and to ensure there are new people coming up.
>
> Any opinions - really interested in hearing other people's thoughts!
>
> Please don't flame if you disagree :)
>
> Cheers
> Kai
>
>
>
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