I never have trouble finding people, there are two things you can do.
1. Advertise and hire someone 2. Hire a keen junior person and train them I do both here, works out well. As for promoting CF, this isn't going to solve anything. There are three reasons CF isn't as popular the way I see it, but Adobe (and the community) do seem to want to address it. 1. It's not fully OO, more OO stuff would give it a better chance at being taught by schools etc. 2. It's not ECMA style scripting, you have to write tags and developers hate that if they have come from other langagues. 3. Its not Free So as a young developer you could use. PHP, .NET or Java (or many others) Which are free, readily available, lots of forumns etc, you can write OO code if you choose and in a familiar syntax. Or you can choose to do something completely out of left field and pick something that is the opposite of the above. Its not that complex, if you were a young developer with those options, its an easy decision, CF is NOT in the running. PS: I don't want to hear the yeah but CF is better, or easier, or quicker to code. I know all that, but the developers when they are young or the unis when they pick their topics, discount it for those three reasons. Die hard CF'ers will say making CF more OO or adding full scripting support is bad for the product as that's not what it's about. Well I say it's about time that Adobe joined the masses in making a ECMA, OO, Free languages. And they already know this obviously, and they have it already, it's called Action Script. Regards Dale Fraser <http://learncf.com> http://learncf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AJ Mercer Sent: Thursday, 10 April 2008 2:09 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD from them too? So do you think if you showed a PHP developer a free CFML engine they would jump ship? Or are they a part of them mob questioning CF's longevity?? Or should we be canvasing the new web developers - those that not know any different / better? Should UGs run a meeting 'An introduction to CF for PHP developers' Should we poach from other disciplines too? - RoR => they are more fanatical the CF developers ;-) - ASP - .Net => are they a lot cause? - JSP And where do CFML Engine providers fit into all of this? Should Railo and New Atlanta be taking on this challenge?? I think Adobe are happy looking after the enterprise end of the market, in which people don't respect 'free' application server products They can afford to pay top dollar for skilled people or pay to train them up. I was hoping Flex and AIR would mention CF a bit more. But I guess Adobe don't want to give the impression that it is the only option and scare of the PHP/.Net market. more questions than answers, sorry :-( On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:30 AM, barry.b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: just getting back to Robin Hilliard's point about recruiters having no problem finding quality candidates for him... ... that may be specific to certain areas (Sydney, Melbourne) or sections of the market (enterprise, RIA's). Besides, Sydney and Melbourne are magnets from other areas of the country anyway. I personally know of 3 CF good people who have moved to Sydney from Brisbane. According to a recruiter I spoke to this morning, one client on his books who is just about to throw the towel in on CF and get his apps re-written in another language - he can't find the CF developers to maintain and extend it. Darren Tracey (QLD CFUG manager) sounded alarm bells about this over a year ago (where the "new blood" was coming from) - but it's typical free-market forces and there's not a lot that can be done about it, even from the educational/student (supply) side. do CF a favour - poach a PHP coder today... -- AJ Mercer Web Log: http://webonix.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
