Agreed - except MG.. most think Cairngorm is a great framework to, but ..oh wait now i'm going to get Robin started :) hehe..
I guess with time comes growth, and i don't there is a right answer (I'd argue there are many problems with the Tooling in .NET). As sometimes you can make it "To easy" to build and thus you get into a bad situation fast.. much like we had with Frontpage... thankfully that's not around anymore :) On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Mark Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I have no clue as to what the hell Joe's up to with Model Glue.. i think >> that guy just creates frameworks for the sake of it vs attacking the >> problems at a niche level. It's like a mutated version of Coldspring, >> Mach-II and Fusebox mixed with some Cairngorm bits to flow into the Flex >> side of things.. >> > > I'm going to have to disagree with you here. I don't actively use MG, but > I've looked pretty close at it, and its a very nice MVC framework. The new > code gen features he has added seem to be more of a response to the > utilisation of XML than anything else. That and the autowiring of > controllers from ColdSpring is pretty much how I would run with any MVC > framework, Mii, ColdBox, MG, whatever, as it simplifies the passing around > of dependencies, and actually abstracts away the implementation of > ColdSpring from your Controller code. > > I don't see Joe doing anything majorly different from, and considering how > popular MG is, I don't think many other people share your opinion. (Although > I could be wrong). > > >> I'm not convinced that framework ontop of CF is the complete answer, i >> think there needs more smarts placed in tooling to compliment CFML. > > > While I agree that there is a CF tool problem (insert stupid joke about the > CFML community here ;o) ), I don't see it as one or the other - if/when the > tools come about, then I would expect that the frameworks would also > leverage those tools, and you would end up in a very nice place with both > high end frameworks and tools that complement them. I guess it's a bit more > of a chicken and egg problem. In the MS world, the tooling came first. In > the CFML world, the frameworks came first. I think we'll find they will > both reach the same conclusion in the end, just from different directions. > > But I do see your point about tooling in CF, Adobe have already stated that > they know it is a problem. Whether or not it will be solved... who knows? > > Mark > > > -- > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > W: www.compoundtheory.com > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
