Rod You have to remember that BLADE servers are just small servers that slide into a compact rack based unit. They operate as an independent server with their own CPU and OS. The sort of thing you want to do it only do-able if you went across virtual machines because they use the same physical CPU so if you went the BLADE option you would need a license per BLADE server. The question is do you need to have enterprise or standard licenses? You could get 10 really beefy servers and run VMWare and load balance then across the main servers. This is a nice option because will make it very easy to expand the cluster with minimal cost and disruption to the service. You could even do it all remotely if you have the room. Even better, you could get 2 really beefy servers with tonnes of hard drive space and have it run over a SAN and just have like client machines running the VMs. Again very easy to expand the network. Regarding the windows licenses, you could also potentially save on them also by using the DataCenter version as it allows for unlimited installs on the same CPU. So basically all you would need is say : - 5 CF licenses - 5 Windows Server DataCenter licenses - 5 X nice servers to run 10 VMs each (this is where you will need a lot of RAM) - 1 x nice SAN server with heaps of hard drive space - Maybe 2 clustered SQL servers Now I dont know how these guys will like the idea of running VMs like this as they may prefer to run physical servers. Its just going to get very expensive if they do. Remember also, you dont have to run windows. you can run WebSphere and build your app in CF and package it also. Something to think about... Steve
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Wilson Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 8:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [cfaussie] Help selling CF as a solution vs. PHP I have just finished with IBM Australia on a project for USA - The project is a conversion of a current CD based package for students to a online delivered solution to approx 3 million users with approx 1.5 million concurrent users. Currently the client is considering a DOT Net front end with a MS SQL backend - the backend after speaking to IBM today require 28 processors licences of SQL at 40k per processor (Why MS SQL at this level is another serious question -re licensing fees) with approx 82 plus copies of Win 2003 Enterprise licence ... currently we are unsure of the number of web servers .. IBM are suggesting 3 Blade Servers each holding 14 blades After considering the costs of the front end (web servers) just the windows licensing costs are huge this naturally brings up the OS costs and then leads onto the development platform Coldfusion has been suggested during the discussion of DOT Net and open source solutions like PHP however the Coldfusion licence and Linux costs exceed a Windows licence cost and a DOT Net solution (a tool is in the process of being written to dynamically convert the CD to a DOT Net solution so we cant use the development time as a point) In looking at this a bit closer the question may be Can a blade server use 1 Coldfusion enterprise licence? OR each blade within the Blade server be treated as a separate server requiring a enterprise licence? OR is there a major discount for 52 copies of Coldfusion enterprise? Any suggestions would be great as currently the feeling is PHP is the way to go Cheers Rob Wilson --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
