sharepoint is one of the MS products taking out ColdFusion apps. I've seen it in some of the positions I've seen.
On May 26, 3:14 pm, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> wrote: > What are other companies out there doing? I.e. have people had experience > with MS knocking on their door? Or any other platform? Anyone know first > hand? > > (I'm still waiting for the PHP evangelists to come knocking). > > Mark > > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 3:02 PM, KC Kuok <kck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > @Eliseo & Mike > > > Yeah I track jobs about once a week to see how the market is > > travelling, TBH in australia it does not seem that it is improving or > > disappearing, its just stagnant atm, it is definitely not experiencing > > this explosive growth of CF jobs/dev chart that gets thrown about the > > past 2 years... In anycase i reckon most are indie Flex devs using CF > > as a backend, probably in the EU and USA where Railo and Adobe have > > major exposure. > > > @ Mark & Others RE:Quesntion of how Adobe could do more to push CF > > > I think CF needs more effort in Australia. Could start with pushing > > the entire platform (LifeCycle/CF and Flex front end), with the pros > > and cons. Maybe subsidise larger CF Houses like Daemon and Rocketboots > > to do like mini presentations to MANAGEMENT level people on CF. > > how they can do a project they wanted, but didnt have the > > "resources" (as in development time) and how LC/CF with Flex can > > overcome that. > > > E.g. everyone knows Andrew Spaulding is part of Adobe Consultancy ANZ > > for Flex, but how many on the list know (if they exist) the people for > > CF and LifeCycle? > > > Also another Idea i had is to have startups get a discount or rebate > > if they put a logo on their about page, like some cool CF badge that > > says "Powered by Adobe Coldfusion", Railo could also do the same > > "powered by Railo Coldfusion" > > > Railo could also do its part by setting up shop (or a presence) in > > Australia maybe as a 2 or 3 year project, to see how it goes. > > > I reckon Red Hat has done well pushing its agenda in this part of the > > world. > > > Conferences and UGs are all good for the CF community but it doesn't > > really make anyone pick up CF if they are not using CF already... > > > BTW does anyone know is there any CF consultancy office (i.e. > > Rocketboots, Daemon) based out of melb? I have heard of a few hybrid > > one, was just thinking that day about any big CF consultancy houses in > > melbourne and couldnt really put my finger on it. > > > PS:I know a few that offer a range including CF, just not focused on > > CF like the forementioned 2 companies. > > > In the end it comes down to this, if Adobe does not push CF hard in > > ANZAC region, people who actually signs the cheques will assume that > > CF is dying because the company that owns it can't be bothered to sell > > it. > > > Chong > > > On May 26, 1:44 pm, Eliseo Dannunzio <eliseo.dannun...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Mike, I don't know where you've been looking but there have been jobs > > > a plenty here in Sydney as based from the number of Seek ads I've seen > > > come through... Granted they are not "pure" CF roles, but they are > > > roles nonetheless. > > > > Eliseo > > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Mike Kear <afpwebwo...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > It's a paradox - the recruiters say coldfusion developers are really > > hard to > > > > find, yet there have been only handful of coldfusion > > contracts/permanent > > > > jobs advertised in the last year or so in Sydney. > > > > If we are in such demand, how come they arent looking for us by > > advertising? > > > > In Sydney in the last 3 months there have been 3 coldfusion jobs > > > > advertised and unless I'm looking in the wrong places, that's it. > > > > I dont know the answer. > > > > But I'm here and available - with up to date technical knowlege, > > experience, > > > > business and project management knowledge and lots of other stuff to > > bring > > > > to the table. > > > > > Cheers > > > > Mike Kear > > > > Windsor, NSW, Australia > > > > Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > > > > AFP Webworks > > > >http://afpwebworks.com > > > > ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Andrew Scott <andr...@andyscott.id.au > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Oh boy, I think I have been saying that for like 8+ years now. > > > > >> Its the market, people are finding it hard to fill ColdFusion roles. > > So > > > >> the only thing left is to move the product over to a more feasible > > language > > > >> with a pool of developers that they can resource from. > > > > >> Until that changes for ColdFusion it will end up dying in this > > country, > > > >> that's the reality of it. And this has been going on ever since > > ColdFusion > > > >> was owned by Macromedia. > > > > >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Steve Onnis <st...@cfcentral.com.au > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >>> I see it all the time. Lots of recruitment agencies see CF as a > > legacy or > > > >>> redundant development platform and I guess that is a result of demand > > and > > > >>> corporate retention of the platform. I really think Adobe needs to > > do > > > >>> something about it. They need to advertise and get out there > > promoting > > > >>> the > > > >>> platform otherwise it will end up the way of the dodo. 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