Totally agree with you Toby. In my opinion it should be Adobe doing the leg work to maintain these clients and then work with local partners to assist in supporting these customers, giving them direct access to the partners for software updates and providing support for them, otherwise what is the point of being classed as a partner
-----Original Message----- From: Toby Tremayne [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 3:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: JB-HI Moving to dotnet Hi Adam, thanks for weighing in on this. You know I love you, but... :) We have to pay to be partners, as well as meet certain criteria. We don't then actually get anything from adobe, except some base level downloads of software - but the expectation we're getting is to spend our own money doing the marketing. As a partner I got no contact from anyone unless I initiated it, and that didn't lead to anything either. I believe the intent is there, but frankly the partner program isn't doing much for a lot of people... Toby On 28/05/2010, at 10:36 AM, Adrock wrote: > Just dropping a line to say I read this thread in it's entirety and I > sympathize. I wish I could offer a silver-bullet solution, but one > does not exist. It's also unfortunate, but these problems are not > unique to ANZ. I'll be sharing these sentiments with Alison (Marketing > Manager) and point her to this thread, but alas, it's things we were > already aware of. > > It's still early, but we are really hoping our new resellers/partners > in ANZ step up and promote ColdFusion in the manner Firmware was. It's > hard to put into perspective, but Adobe has well over 125+ products. > The Adobe AU office is small and only focuses on the big ticket items > (LiveCycle, Connect, CS, etc.). This is really conundrum. If we want > Adobe AU (or just Adobe in general) to be more involved w/ CF, then we > would have to dramatically raise the price. Of course, other the other > hand a significant portion of the market thinks ColdFusion is too > expensive as it is and screamed bloody murder when we released CB. > > This is all underlined by a failing world economy and we can't ignore > it's effect on the ColdFusion community. For every customer who > doesn't upgrade or migrates to another technology like PHP, .NET or > Railo, it's money that leave our ecosystem. Which means less money for > marketing, conferences, user groups, documentation... this is what > hurts the most about a company like JB-HI leaving CF. It's a vicious > circle for sure, but I do believe we can turn it around... > > I'm planning on coming to Melbourne for cf.obj(ANZ). By then, I should > be allowed to share some details on our strategy for ColdFusion X > (albeit under NDA). To share a comment Shantanu Narayen made about CF > X, "Go big, or go home". We certainly don't intend to go home. :-) > > -Adam > ColdFusion Product Manager > Long-time fan of ColdFusion in ANZ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "cfaussie" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
