On a job i was working last year, the person i was reporting to, i think their title was "web properties manager", was doing a TAFE course ...somewhere in melbourne, maybe south-west, not sure... an introduction to programming, because they thought (rightly) that it would be easier to communicate with people like me if they knew a few things themself. the course offered a choice of PHP and CF (and maybe one or two others). i think almost everybody chose PHP, only one or two (including my friend) chose CF.
so someone is doing it, somewhere in victoria. asdff On 27/05/10 21:51, Barry Beattie wrote: >> TAFEs have a different problem. Teaching specific technologies is part of >> their brief. There is some limited curriculum material available (based on >> the commercial courses) for vocational colleges to teach using the Adobe >> products, but what TAFEs need are teachers with the skills to teach these >> languages. >> > me me me. That's how I was brought, kicking and screaming, to CF - I > had to teach it. I've been looking, Robin, but no TAFE's are looking > for experienced and qualified CF teachers in my city. You hear of one? > let me know, OK? > > > >> Adobe can't magic these people into being - they have to come from the >> community. If you're a contractor or a full timer looking to moonlight as >> an evening instructor, have you considered approaching your local TAFE or >> community college and offering to run a web development course? Emma Jones >> (nee Steer, some of you may remember her as the Canberra Macromedia UG >> manager for several years) has been having some success with Flash and the >> local TAFEs around Wangaratta. Maybe someone with some pedagogical bent >> could start a wiki for lesson plans and extra course material and ideas for >> people who wanted to get into this. >> > > I would have thought that a barometer to do that would be the strength > of short courses delivering this. > > Brisbane North TAFE (my employer until earlier this year) has sewn up > the TAFE short course scene with their Adult Community Education > courses (over a weekend or so). But to be honest, they get more go > from lead-lighting and wine appreciation than computer languages. It's > a Micky-Mouse operation and practically anyone can offer something to > them. If they reckon their cut is worthwhile, they might listen. > > The only other way courses could be delivered out of the TAFE system > is either accredited (you get a qualification - CertIII,Cert IV, Dip) > and CF would be one platform to learn on > > or non-accredited specialist short courses. > > Both delivered out of faculty, not third-party (you have teachers with > tenure to consider here). FYI Brisbane Nth (Ithaca campus) has IMHO > the best reputation for IT for all the Brisbane TAFE's. > > I've designed courses while at QANTM up to Diploma level (it's not > hard if you know what you're doing) that incorporated CF. > > There is a real need to do pre-testing before admittance - an aptitude > test. At QANTM any Diploma course, the hard break-even (class > size/enrollments) was 12. 15 was a soft break-even that got you some > cred to get resources. Class sizes of 20 or more guaranteed it would > run next year. Two or more classes of 20 means they would look at a > mid-year intake as well. I was never able to get those numbers so the > course couldn't fly (and that was with 3 languages - CF, PHP and > ASP.NET/C# - on two platforms - Linux and Win - with a decent section > on Flash/Flex apps and a bit on video streaming). > > > Half a dozen people sitting in a 3 day short-course delivered by a > private training provider is as much as you can expect, methinks. You > certainly couldn't do that every week for the instructor to pay their > mortgage... > > my opinion only. No cents offered here. I've none left. > > barry.b > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
