Hey Andrew,

For what it's worth when ever I create a 'new' CF instance I can say for sure 
you won't get the data sources from the default cfusion instance.

If you are creating an instance 'from a WAR' then it depends what you chose to 
have included in that WAR file when it was created.

Side note: if you run CF in console mode when creating a new instance you will 
see it generate an ANT build.xml. If you find this and take a copy of it, you 
can read it and gain a better understanding of what steps are taken to create a 
new instance :)

Oh i'm rambling again... Happy Easter everyone! 

On 22/04/2011, at 5:57 PM, Andrew Myers <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Charlie,
> 
> Definitely not using the war option.  It's very strange - particularly that I 
> can reproduce it every time on different machines.  Guess I'm doing something 
> unusual somewhere but I'm not sure what it is!
> 
> Andrew
> 
> Sent from my mobile
> 
> On 22/04/2011, at 9:09 AM, "charlie arehart" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> That is odd, Andrew, and no, I've not heard it happening before (but perhaps
>> others have). 
>> 
>> I will ask this, just to make sure we really are talking about the same
>> thing: when you create the new instance, do you do it using the WAR file
>> option (where you provide the name of a WAR file during the creation of the
>> new instance)? Or do you not, which is by far the more typical way?
>> 
>> I ask because it could indeed differ if you do use the WAR file option. For
>> instance, one can create a WAR file during the install of CF Enterprise, and
>> use it during the creation of an instance (not that one needs to bother, but
>> sometimes people find some blog entry that recommends an approach and they
>> follow it, not knowing any reason to do otherwise.) Well, such a stock WAR
>> file would indeed then be very vanilla, with nothing but default Admin
>> settings. 
>> 
>> Or you may have created the WAR file from an existing instance (another
>> option which many never notice), and then used that to build the instance.
>> If so, perhaps the WAR file was created when you had some settings set but
>> just not datasources. 
>> 
>> But again, the far more common thing is not to bother specifying any WAR
>> file when creating the new instance. If that's what you're doing, and you
>> say there are some settings that propagate but not the datasources, that
>> would indeed be strange. 
>> 
>> /charlie
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of Andrew Myers
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:27 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: CF 9 Monitor Alerts still being sent even
>>> though not enabled?
>>> 
>>> That's interesting Charlie.  On my Windows dev machine, my Linux test
>>> environment and my Linux production box I get zero datasources on any
>>> new instances I create.  I have CF 9.0.1 on them all.
>>> 
>>> This is despite my "master" cfusion instance having over a half a
>>> dozen datasources on all 3 installs.
>>> 
>>> One thing I do have on each of them is an embedded derby datasource as
>>> well.  I was curious as to whether this could be a factor, however I
>>> just removed it from my dev box out of curiosity, but when I created
>>> another new instance it too had zero datasources.  So it appears
>>> that's not factor that's making a difference.
>>> 
>>> I know we're getting away from the original topic but this is probably
>>> why I never clued on to the fact that a new instance is actually a
>>> copy of the cfusion instance, because I had to reconfigure the
>>> datasources each time I created a new one.   I wonder what makes me so
>>> "special" that my datasources don't propagate?  Have you ever heard of
>>> this happening before?
>>> 
>> 
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