I am not debating whether you can't fake IP headers, I don't know - what I
do wonder is, if you fake IP headers, and you specify an IP that's not you,
then how are you going to receive data back? If you know what I mean?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Mark Stanton
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2004 8:15 PM
> To: CFAussie Mailing List
> Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Old Post RE: Browser Sessions - elaborate
> 
> 
> > I still reckon it does, I believe you can't or its 
> difficult to fake 
> > those values (but I could be wrong) i.e. IP address and 
> > xhttp_forwarded_for.
> 
> You can fake those values. For HTTP stuff I can change any 
> headers just using Firebird & the LiveHTTPHeaders plugin.
> 
> For lower level (TCP/IP) check out 
> http://www.grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm, the section > titled 'An 
> Attack Prone to Filtering?' covers spoofing network information.
> 
> I guess what I am saying is that someone can send you any 
> information they like from the ground up - and so you can't 
> trust any of it.
> 
> OT: Read the whole article for a bit of a jolt to the system. 
> The IRC dialogue with <^b0ss^> is especially fun. This was an 
> attack by a 13 year old against servers run by a security expert.
> 
> OK I'm off home, but before I go - I'm not a security expert 
> by any means & there a probably people on this list who can 
> provide much better information or correct me where I've 
> stuff up. If you can, please do.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mark
> 
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