I'll be blunt,

You need to chill out more.

The problem with this whole topic has been, you didn't get an immediate 
answer from a problem that you liked, not only that the proposed method of 
attack you have outlined in many ways just doesn't hold water, in that its 
not a typical every day solution that  you would face in OOP (before you 
start counter-arguments on CFMX and OOP read on).

Then after all this, you decide to then go an make a smart ass comment 
about not only myself and others who are on this list that "ramble on 
about OO" and yet don't understand it. You gotta learn to pick your 
battles and when to walk away, as you come off too aggressive and looking 
like an idiot.

At anyrate, dislike me or not, really doesn't make a difference to me, but 
don't assume to understand my skills or skillset just because i found your 
personal dilemma frustrating. The reason i found it frustrating as it goes 
against everything I have *actually* learned about OOP. I don't pretend to 
assume that i'm the god of OOP, hell i'm still learning and unlike you, 
i'm open to new concepts put forth. I've not had the X number of years of 
OOP background as some people on this list (ie Sean, Gary etc).

I like the word Monkey, because its a funny term (whether you or others 
agree is another topic) and its a term commonly used when i was at TQ, and 
habits die hard. When I call someone a Code Monkey it means, you aren't a 
moron, quite the opposite your at a level of "coding" respect. If i call 
you a newbie, then you can take issue with it...thats the whole "Monkey" 
definition/glossary of terms.

While CFMX is a totally different discipline and maybe thats the biggest 
struggle most of us face, in that making CFMX into an OOP ruleset when in 
fact it doesn't have to be, yet we can't quite seem to let that go... its 
only taken me the last couple of months, to realise that making CFMX into 
this Strict Coding Language is a waste of time, as it breaks a lot of 
rules and doesn't adhere to ones i like. I'm still learning JAVA & C#, so 
in many ways I'm still a newbie to OOP and i'll happilly admit that.

At anyrate, point is you come off too aggressive and depsite the list 
being a supposed "help for the CFMXer downunder" its not here waiting for 
"Taco's problem of the day", we all have jobs/priorities of our own, and 
those of us who do post on here to *try* and help others, whether we are 
right/wrong we still donate our time and energy in helping..aswell as 
prooving to ourselves concepts we have floating around in our noggins is 
infact right. Its good to problem solve, but its only as good as the 
person who has the problem, in that if you start counter-acting peoples 
intentions with a negative attitude, your gonna find yourself caught in a 
thread like this one.

Nothing personal, but in future, i'll just butt out of your threads, as 
its quite clear we both don't get along CFMX wise.

Scott Out.

P,S 
Everytime you post a negative flamewar on a list, God Kills a puppy. Think 
on that.

P.S.S
Everytime I post on here, thats less $$ in my pocket (even now, this email 
cost me $15), not saying people owe me for it, just saying be mindful in 
contract roles, time is money and if I or others take time to help others 
via this list, be aware they are basically paying for the right to help 
you/others.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/10/2004 07:19:44 AM:

> > Anyway, i can see this degrading into yet "another" one of your 
> > catfights. I'll simply yield and let you walk away feeling good about 
> > yourself and leave it at that?
> 
> Agreed, it is starting to look like a catfight, I guess because I am so
> annoyed that a simple question is turned around twisted and molded into
> something else by you than what it started out with. I guess that's what 
you
> get when every post you post is trying to be funny..
> 
> I'll leave it with this to - as always I am wrong, I have no clue what I 
am
> doing, create shitty code and should really find another job..
> 
> I think I will revert to just observing this list again like I was for a
> little while, I have other resources where I can actually get answers to
> simple questions.
> 
> Ciao monkey boy...
> 
> 
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