ColdFusion is still selling well (new and old licenses) - certainly better
than Flex which they keep on whining on about. It isn't going anywhere as
far being a product is concerned - it's a mainstay.

If anything ASP is dead, has been for over 3 to 4 years (not ASP.NET).

PHP - we'll yes, live in the now.

There is always Bluedragon.







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Well Claude, you'd have to think so.  
 
There have been no announcements from Macromedia about sales successes, that
you'd expect to see if they were selling  new servers.   I'm getting sick of
hearing from all sorts of site owners that they're either in the process of
changing to some other technology, or have decided not to do any more apps
in ColdFusion. 
 
There are very few contract or full time jobs in ColdFusion in Sydney at the
moment.  I just had a recruiter tell me he knew of only two jobs in
ColdFusion in Sydney, and the one we were talking about was at a site where
they had a team of CF Developers, but they were going to change away from CF
to .asp in the next few years.  The job will be maintenance only. 
 
I am still looking for some kind of reassurance from Macromedia that
ColdFusion is an ongoing technology.   When you raise it with a Macromedia
person, you get protests that they're working as hard as they can to sell
the servers, but if they're actually selling any, where are they going?   As
far as I can see nowhere but in existing CF sites. 
 
Where are the new installations??   If there were any new installations
wouldnt it be a good idea to tell some people about it, so we can at least
try to convince managers of existing sites like the manager of the data
centre you mention that they arent going to be stuck with orphan technology.

 
I'm still looking for CF contract work in Sydney and there just isnt any, as
far as I can see.   
 
Claude, I fear you might be right.     
 
Or else perhaps Macromedia might like to chip in here and reassure us.  Not
just with platitudes and motherhood statements, but with some facts.  WHO is
moving TO Cold Fusion????   Anyone?   Mark Blair, where are all these
servers going to say you're selling?     Show us they're not just going to
upgrade existing CF5 sites. 
 
 
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month 


 
On 10/10/05, Claude Raiola < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  

The following are were comments made by a data centre in Melbourne when I
asked if they were able to have cf server running on their clients servers.

"Cold fusion is a very expensive piece of software to purchase! Not many
people use it anymore as it has been superseded by Java, PHP, and on the
Windows side - ASP."

"we could install it, but you guys would be pretty lonely out there running
it! Some ISPs still run a copy, but it is a bit like VHS cassette tapes in
terms of technology now a days." 

"It is quite expensive and apart from some activity a few years ago we
rarely see it in use nowadays. PHP and Java seemed to have killed it in our
observations across 450 servers."

 

Kind Regards



Claude Raiola
B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt.
Mobile: 0414 228 948
Phone: 07 5538 5961
Fax: 07 3319 6444 

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