Mike,

"There is a geniuine perception in a large proportion of web site owners
that ColdFusion is either dying or will die when Adobe take control."

This is a nonsense statement. You cannot justify saying this.

Then again everyone said that about ColdFusion when MM bought Allaire (all 4
versions of ColdFusion ago)






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Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Is CF Programming Becoming Dieing A Slow Death ??

G'day M@,
 
I'm not just whinging.     There is a geniuine perception in a large
proportion of web site owners that ColdFusion is either dying or will die
when Adobe take control.  It's part of Macromedia's task to counter that,
dont you think?    I know it's a real perception because I keep  hearing it.
For example in the last month, I've heard it from a Telco IT director who
has 12 CF developers, and a NSW government department with a CF team of 8. 
 
I'm not saying it's a valid perception.  I'm saying it exists, and it's a
real belief, at least in the planning calculations of the IT people I've
met.  And in my travels I havent met one - NOT ONE - in the last two years
who has said they're going to be investing in ColdFusion. 
 
I've spent a lot of my career in the sales end of the computer business.
It's not just happenstance that computer companies spend a lot of money
telling the world who is using their technology.  Without the general
perception around that the technology is going ahead, existing users are
easy prey to their competitors.  IBM goes to great expense to work on the
perception that their user base is growing. So does Unisys, and so do all
the other IT vendor companies.   Look at all the brochures and ads for
computer technology.  A LARGE proportion of them use real life client
examples.  There's a reason for that. 

Except, as far as I can see, Macromedia.   I'd have thought it would be part
of their sales process to bellow to the world that XXX has a new site built
on their excellent technology.    Because while I'm not going to name names
here, I've had numerous site owners telling me they're not going to be doing
any more new development on ColdFusion.  In the last two years I havent met
anyone who has decided to move TO ColdFusion. 
 
That doesnt mean such people exist, but I sure havent met any.  And I'd
dearly love to.
 
I'm not going to debate my personal affairs with you in a forum like this,
but  as for your comment about moving out of my own suburb, please dont be
insulting.     I am prepared to go anywhere that makes sense, except that I
can't uproot my family, sell my house move to another town.  For a lot of
reasons that's not possible.  But I'll go anywhere in the Sydney basin.
I'm not frightened of hard work or travel and you aren't being at all fair
saying so.    
 
If you know about all these jobs, and you know of all these people who need
CFDevelopers, how about telling me about a few of them (Off list though
please)?  OR are you just going to keep it all to yourself?     
 
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
 

 
On 10/10/05, M@ Bourke < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Hi Mike, 

you've been an active whinger of MM and CF for over a year, if you think MM
is so bad, why don't you get a job using Java ? 

I find it hard to believe you have trouble getting a CF job at present,
unless you don't want to travel outside your suburb,

I 

 
 
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